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Question about my firearm purchase

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Ok I've been a long time reader but only recently registered. For a while I had a question about my firearm purchase, and thought this would be a good time to ask. Nothing like public display of ignorance to get things started. :grin:

I got my CHL a little over a year ago and a few months before that I bought a New Springfield XD40SC at the Big Town gun show at Mesquite, TX. Everything went fine with the purchase. When I got home I sat down with the gun learning how to load it, unload it, break it down, and clean it before I did any shooting with it. Here is where my question starts. I noticed in the box that there I once piece of brass from a fired round in a small paper envelope. At the time I thought it was part of some quality assurance test. However later I noticed a little a compliance sticker saying this gun was compliment with two states. One of them was New York and I can't remember what the other was (box is currently stuffed in the storage building somewhere). Looking at all the anti-gun legislation I heard about in New York it occurred to me that the brass may have been from a ballistics test of some type. Is this possible?

Seeing as I have no desire in living in or visiting New York, I really don't really don't know all the gun laws of that state. I guess that why I'm asking the experts here.

As far as ballistics tests goes, I read plenty to know how ineffective they are. I was curious to know what other people think about my theory.

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Welcome to the forum. New York and Maryland require fired brass or bullets from newly registered handguns.

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seamusTX wrote:Welcome to the forum. New York and Maryland require fired brass or bullets from newly registered handguns.
Yup. If you'd lived in either of those states when you made the purchase, you wouldn't get that piece of brass: the state police would.

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Is this one of those things that is related to identifying the firearm in case it is used in a crime? That is, are the police able to (or even supposedly able to) identify a firearm from the brass used in it?

I ask because I can see including something like a target to show accuracy from a rest, but brass? doesn't make much sense to me... :confused5
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Welcome wo5m to the Forum. Texas is the best place to be.
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Mithras61 wrote:Is this one of those things that is related to identifying the firearm in case it is used in a crime? That is, are the police able to (or even supposedly able to) identify a firearm from the brass used in it?

I ask because I can see including something like a target to show accuracy from a rest, but brass? doesn't make much sense to me... :confused5
The indent on a primer can be linked back to a gun due to the tool/machine marks on the firing pin. It would only be useful if you left brass at the scene of a crime for the lab to have something to compare to.
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http://www.firearmsid.com/A_FirearmsID.htm


The brass can be used to ID a firearm, but I believe there was a court case a couple of years ago that knocked the wind out of the firearms lab folks. I do not think it is as widely accepted as it used to be. Hopefully one of the LEO hanging out can provide a bit more information. Hopefully your gun doesn't scratch brass like mine does! Sounds scary to me!
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Mithras61 wrote:Is this one of those things that is related to identifying the firearm in case it is used in a crime? That is, are the police able to (or even supposedly able to) identify a firearm from the brass used in it?

I ask because I can see including something like a target to show accuracy from a rest, but brass? doesn't make much sense to me... :confused5
Useless.
I just read that Maryland recommended killing their program after spending 2.5 Million and have not used the data to help *one* case in that time.

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Doesn't really make sese since the barrel and firing pin could be replaced, does it? What's to stop someone from replacing the parts?
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Nothing. That has been said to no avail.
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Doesn't really make sese since the barrel and firing pin could be replaced, does it? What's to stop someone from replacing the parts?
Actually, that would be high on my "to do" list if I were in one of the states that required brass samples . . . aside from not liking the idea of some bureaucrat tracking me, I'd be concerned with some bad guy gathering up brass at the range JUST to scatter around a crime scene . . .
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It would be as simple as taking a file to your barrel and firing pin and altering them ever so slightly.
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