CHL in a bank?

[longtooth]

Gentlemen lets quit the arguing back & forth. This is a valuable thread.

For some of you "new to Carry" folks, there are some of us old, bald headed, gun nuts that started shooting over 50 yrs ago & handgun shooting 44 yrs ago. WE got used to carry on the farm & in the woods when there was nothing to get nervous about. As adults we carried at the house, on our property, in the woods hunting & there was nothing to be nervous about. When legal carry came to be we really were not nervous because we had grown up that way. There are some of us that bank or church never raised a concern. It was another place we went.

For those of you that have been shooting for ages, starting as a small child, REMEMBER, there really are young folks here & on the street that this is totlally new to. They do not have the privilege that I did of starting to carry around Dad & all the men at the hunting camps. This is new to them & they are having to get used to the "feelings" & that is natural.

As far as the driving example. I never was nervous there either. I was driving an 8N ford tractor in the pasture when I was 7 or 8 yrs old. Nothing to be nervous about there because there was nothing you could run into or hurt. From there the turnrows between fields, & running a bushog or little 4 row cultivator.
Graduated to the jeep from irigation well to well. By the time we as kids were driving the pickup on the Farm rds that was no deal either.
Not every one had that opportunity & those that did not had to learn to deal w/ the feeelings of nervous & get over them.

Now Us Ole Guys did have some of those fearful nervous times when we had to learn this computer business. Over & over my wife has said, quit being scared, you are not going to hurt it. I was as nervous or maybe more so around a computer 10yrs ago than the new shooters & carry folks are today.

Not right or wrong. Just different.

Back on topic & please stop the catty remarks.
Over & out for a class. Seeya in the morning or in about an hr if no one shows up for the evening class.
Thank you gentlemen.
LT

[Seabear]

I'm not quite sure why some people are so touchy on here, gees , we all pretty much have the same beliefs and desires to protect ourselves and our families.

We have something HUGE in common. How about we promote the belief rather than drag each other down? United we Stand, devided we fall.

[lonewolf]

As a general rule, people are protective and defensive of their opinions. Perfectly natural. That and the fact that on occasion, as we all know, the written word is read in an entirely different manner than the intent with which it was written. Try it sometime. Read this and place the emphasis on different words as you read them, and I could go from an understanding person, appreciating someone else's point of view, to an old goober with blinders on that won't listen to what anyone says anyway.......

And to stay on topic, carrying in a bank is no problem whatsoever. No bank/credit union I deal with has a problem with me carrying. None know I carry and none are posted, so all is within the law, legal and proper. I did, however, feel strange the first time. Probably looked like whatshername from the Exorcist with my head on a swivel........

[Embalmo]

Second-guessing people's statements about how things happened and how they felt about it when you don't know them, weren't there and have no way of knowing what they were thinking isn't much appreciated either.

Saying "speak for yourself" to someone is not belittling. That's how he felt. It isn't how I felt.

Someone made a comment about how "everyone" feels a certain way when he first starts carrying. That person is quite simply wrong because "everyone" doesn't. And I'll guarantee that I am not the only person who didn't feel that people were staring at me waiting to get a peek at my gun. It isn't even a legitimate statement because he has no way of even knowing "everyone," let alone how they all feel or what they all think.

Words mean things and they should be used properly.

Making comments like, "speak for yourself," and "where do you get your information?" is belittling, as it suggest that the target is stupid and somehow not as cool as someone who felt perfectly natural and confident the first time they carried.

I assure you that if an individual understands and accepts the enormous responsibility of concealed carry, he will naturally undergo an initial period of awkwardness and over-cautiousness whether he is willing to admit it or not.

Embalmo

[bdickens]

Making comments like, "speak for yourself," and "where do you get your information?" is belittling, as it suggest that the target is stupid and somehow not as cool as someone who felt perfectly natural and confident the first time they carried.

Well, you can certainly chose to feel belittled if that's what you want. I would rather that you read what I wrote and not read into it.

I assure you that if an individual understands and accepts the enormous responsibility of concealed carry, he will naturally undergo an initial period of awkwardness and over-cautiousness whether he is willing to admit it or not.

Embalmo

Speak for yourself.

And I assure you that you are making a statement resting on baseless assumptions. Have you polled every single concealed-carrier in the country? Or seen the results of such a poll? If you haven't, then you have no way whatsoever of knowing how every concealed-carrier feels about anything. Seriously, are you a mind reader? You seem to know an awful lot about how other people think and feel.

One of my pet peeves is the misuse of language whether through malice or just plain sloppiness. And it is a misuse of language to say that everyone thinks this or everyone feels that because you have absolutely no way of knowing that.

[Embalmo]

Making comments like, "speak for yourself," and "where do you get your information?" is belittling, as it suggest that the target is stupid and somehow not as cool as someone who felt perfectly natural and confident the first time they carried.

Well, you can certainly chose to feel belittled if that's what you want. I would rather that you read what I wrote and not read into it.

I assure you that if an individual understands and accepts the enormous responsibility of concealed carry, he will naturally undergo an initial period of awkwardness and over-cautiousness whether he is willing to admit it or not.

Embalmo

Speak for yourself.

And I assure you that you are making a statement resting on baseless assumptions. Have you polled every single concealed-carrier in the country? Or seen the results of such a poll? If you haven't, then you have no way whatsoever of knowing how every concealed-carrier feels about anything. Seriously, are you a mind reader? You seem to know an awful lot about how other people think and feel.

One of my pet peeves is the misuse of language whether through malice or just plain sloppiness. And it is a misuse of language to say that everyone thinks this or everyone feels that because you have absolutely no way of knowing that.

The purpose of this thread is to share information, help each other and, I believe, to make lesser experienced members/carriers understand that we've all experienced what they are currently going through; at least that's how it's been for me over the last year, as I've found some amazing members who've helped me along the way without making me feel stupid. So, is it too much to ask for members to refrain from popping off about how their learning experience was superior and free from any awkwardness?

With all that said, I love to get on this forum to see the latest questions, comments, and who got a new gun or holster; and then I cringe when I see some member pick apart another member's post to show them how stupid they are. And Come on-Do you really think that mocking me by telling me, "Speak for yourself." with a cutesy jester is a mature way to communicate to me on this thread? I see that kinda' silliness elsewhere and I would prefer that it stay elsewhere. A good rule of thumb, I believe, is to post on forum threads the same way you would talk to a person face to face.

Let's talk about carrying in banks again, it's very interesting how many CHLs and non-CHLs assume that bank carry is prohibited.

Embalmo

[tetralaw]

When I carried in my bank for the first time I definitely felt weird. Almost a "hope no one see's this and thinks I'm going to rob the place" kind of feeling. After about 5 minutes in line I got relaxed and didn't worry about it.

Yes, 5 minutes. Sometimes they get a rush of people in for some reason. Could be that they're the only Navy Federal Credit Union for a couple hundred miles.

[Tamie]

Not right or wrong. Just different.

Isn't that what speak for yourself means? Admitting the person's viewpoint is valid for them but doesn't apply to everyone.

[AJ80]

I remember my first experience with carrying a gun to a bank(not in it as I didn't have a CHL).

I had just bought my first handgun, a Walther P22, which was ~$200 at the time. A cheap gun that takes cheap ammo.
Well, after I bought it, I hid it behind my backpack in my front seat inside its case and then went to the bank to either deposit or withdraw money... can't remember which.

As soon as I got to the bank and got out of my car, a guy pointed into my car window and said "Is that a" at this point I became very nervous thinking somehow he'd seen my gun in my car, until I heard him finish the sentence with "a Strong's Concordance?" I can't tell you how relieved I was.

We finished off with a short conversation, and then went our separate ways.

Anyway, after I got my Glock 26, I started carrying in my car while waiting for my CHL. It took a while to get over the nervousness of just having it in my car. After my CHL arrived though, I wasn't really nervous about carrying it on my person, except for that one time in Wal-Mart when I wasn't carrying my gun as securely as I should have been and... Let's just say it's kind of nerve wracking having a gun trying to fall down your pants leg while you try to get through the crowded registers at the front of the store to the restroom so you can re-secure your gun in privacy. Lesson Learned.

Note: Always wear a holster.