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Greybeard
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Saw that one a while ago. That really makes me 
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hmmmm.
Skimmed it, saw the crummy shot that didn't drop that buck. Grrrr.
Hunting a few weeks back down in Kerrville area, was angry at all the high fences separating all the properties. Actually saw some whitetail smash into the fence trying to get away from us, and not successful. Did have a crippled Axis Buck, 250+ lbs, clear the 10' fence with 3 legs, and the owner of the property next to us refused to let us track it into his land where it went.
Offered to find it, no guns, and give it to him. He said "aint my blankety-blank deer'. Some people wake up bitter.
Anyway, my real gripe is this:
Last I checked, the wild deer belong to the people of Texas, so fencing in your property with 10' deer fence should be illegal, or taxed.
Selfishness at its best.
Jerks.
Skimmed it, saw the crummy shot that didn't drop that buck. Grrrr.
Hunting a few weeks back down in Kerrville area, was angry at all the high fences separating all the properties. Actually saw some whitetail smash into the fence trying to get away from us, and not successful. Did have a crippled Axis Buck, 250+ lbs, clear the 10' fence with 3 legs, and the owner of the property next to us refused to let us track it into his land where it went.
Offered to find it, no guns, and give it to him. He said "aint my blankety-blank deer'. Some people wake up bitter.
Anyway, my real gripe is this:
Last I checked, the wild deer belong to the people of Texas, so fencing in your property with 10' deer fence should be illegal, or taxed.
Selfishness at its best.
Jerks.
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Yea, a month or three ago "Texas Coop Power" magazine had a cover story on the "up and coming" white tail deer breeding industry in Tejas. Focus on "antlers" ... 
Methinks someone hired 'em a very good "PR Firm".
While Teddy Roosevelt was about as rich as they made 'em in his day, he knew well the meaning of "We have met the enemy - and they is us". And then did something about it. Very regretfull to see so much of it being undone with some of these operations.
Methinks someone hired 'em a very good "PR Firm". While Teddy Roosevelt was about as rich as they made 'em in his day, he knew well the meaning of "We have met the enemy - and they is us". And then did something about it. Very regretfull to see so much of it being undone with some of these operations.
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Yeppers. And I'll go you one better: the deer don't belong to the people at all; they belong to the land...meaning the territory, not the 100 acres someone decides to fence off. From the formation of the Republic in 1836 and more than a hundred years after, the wild deer in Texas represented a substantial part of the sustenance and lives of Texas families, particularly along the Edward's Plateau and into West Texas.Last I checked, the wild deer belong to the people of Texas, so fencing in your property with 10' deer fence should be illegal...
Deer are a natural resource that don't sit still like an oil well. You shouldn't try to fence them in...or out.
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Can someone explain the logic of the ridiculous "13 inch spread" rule? Texas wants more desirable bucks with bigger racks, so in order to encourage that... they only allow you to shoot bucks with big antlers? While leaving those with small tight racks in the gene pool?Greybeard wrote:Yea, a month or three ago "Texas Coop Power" magazine had a cover story on the "up and coming" white tail deer breeding industry in Tejas. Focus on "antlers" ...
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Well I'm glad someone else is a thinkin'. Cause the rulemakers sure aren't. Anyone want to send them some info on genetics?KBCraig wrote:Can someone explain the logic of the ridiculous "13 inch spread" rule? Texas wants more desirable bucks with bigger racks, so in order to encourage that... they only allow you to shoot bucks with big antlers? While leaving those with small tight racks in the gene pool?Greybeard wrote:Yea, a month or three ago "Texas Coop Power" magazine had a cover story on the "up and coming" white tail deer breeding industry in Tejas. Focus on "antlers" ...
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The 13" spread thing has been cussed and discussed elsewhere with more bandwidth than what Chas would likely appreciate being expended here. And, it's another one of those mornings where I probably need more coffee ... 
So, KB, in response to your question, I'll paste another guy's (crazyhorseconsulting) "simple" explanation at http://www.texashuntingforum.com
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Lets try to run this one down one more time. The state wide limit on White Tail Deer is 5.
As long as a hunter does not exceed the bag limit in the county they are hunting in, they can wander all over the state putting together their 5 deer limit.
Also, state wide, the limit is 3 bucks.
Don't matter if you shoot them in 3 different 1 buck counties that don't have the antler regs.
Or you can shoot 3 13"+ bucks or 3 spikes in 3 different counties with the regs.
Or you can shoot 1 buck in either of the above and the other 2 in a 2 buck or 3 buck county.
Or you can shoot all 3 in one 3 buck county.
Under no circumstances however can you exceed either the limit in the county you are hunting in, or the state wide limit.
Same with does, and the state wide limit on them is 5. That is why the license has 2 antlerless only tags and 3 buck or antlerless.
To simplify things, everyone needs to pick up the Outdoor Annual when they buy their license and keep it in their vehicle or with their hunting stuff. Then all they have to do is look up the county listing and see what the regs are for that county. JMO.
So, KB, in response to your question, I'll paste another guy's (crazyhorseconsulting) "simple" explanation at http://www.texashuntingforum.com-----------------
Lets try to run this one down one more time. The state wide limit on White Tail Deer is 5.
As long as a hunter does not exceed the bag limit in the county they are hunting in, they can wander all over the state putting together their 5 deer limit.
Also, state wide, the limit is 3 bucks.
Don't matter if you shoot them in 3 different 1 buck counties that don't have the antler regs.
Or you can shoot 3 13"+ bucks or 3 spikes in 3 different counties with the regs.
Or you can shoot 1 buck in either of the above and the other 2 in a 2 buck or 3 buck county.
Or you can shoot all 3 in one 3 buck county.
Under no circumstances however can you exceed either the limit in the county you are hunting in, or the state wide limit.
Same with does, and the state wide limit on them is 5. That is why the license has 2 antlerless only tags and 3 buck or antlerless.
To simplify things, everyone needs to pick up the Outdoor Annual when they buy their license and keep it in their vehicle or with their hunting stuff. Then all they have to do is look up the county listing and see what the regs are for that county. JMO.
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Thanks for that "simple" explanation. 
I've decided to go back to the woods next fall, but I'm after meat, not antlers. I'll be hunting in a game management area, with no limit on does.
I don't plan on traipsing all over Texas just to fill my buck tags. I don't care if I've still got all my buck tags left at the end of the season, so long as I've got a freezer full of meat.
Kevin
I've decided to go back to the woods next fall, but I'm after meat, not antlers. I'll be hunting in a game management area, with no limit on does.
I don't plan on traipsing all over Texas just to fill my buck tags. I don't care if I've still got all my buck tags left at the end of the season, so long as I've got a freezer full of meat.
Kevin
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Yep, same here on hunting more for meat than antlers. Have not seen a recipe yet that makes those things look edible.
Quote in other man's post cited above: " Or you can shoot 3 13"+ bucks or 3 spikes in 3 different counties with the regs. "
Maybe I've had enough coffee by now to say methinks the spirit of the minimum 13" spread thing is to try and keep from having so many 1 1/2 year old bucks taken each year, to let 'em grow for at least another season. And at the same time, in many of the counties, encourage people to take out some young bucks with "poor genes".
Runnels County does not (yet - some folks think it may eventually go statewide) have the 13" rule, but TP&W has been extending the season by a couple of extra weeks in January- specifically to thin out spikes and does only. To some of us, that too is perceived as somewhat more subtle "trophy management" that's been in place for a while ...
Quote in other man's post cited above: " Or you can shoot 3 13"+ bucks or 3 spikes in 3 different counties with the regs. "
Maybe I've had enough coffee by now
to say methinks the spirit of the minimum 13" spread thing is to try and keep from having so many 1 1/2 year old bucks taken each year, to let 'em grow for at least another season. And at the same time, in many of the counties, encourage people to take out some young bucks with "poor genes". Runnels County does not (yet - some folks think it may eventually go statewide) have the 13" rule, but TP&W has been extending the season by a couple of extra weeks in January- specifically to thin out spikes and does only. To some of us, that too is perceived as somewhat more subtle "trophy management" that's been in place for a while ...
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ditto. hunting isn't just about killing. it's about being outdoors, and being a part of nature. i spend hours upon hours waiting to see one good deer. i enjoy every minute of it. tracking, scouting, it's all part of it.spud wrote:No comment. Don't want to break the 12 year old rule...
Makes me sick..