Full Size vs. Subcompact

Matt78665 · Post by **Matt78665** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:07 am

A year or so ago I got my CHL with help from this forum. I had a Glock 22 and a Crossbreed IWB. I read that most where using Glock 27 and Glock 23 for their EDC. So, I followed suit. I got my Glock 27 and practiced with it. I found I could conceal it with no problem wearing the proper garments. I however did notice the grip to be to short for my hand and although I was able to compensate, it was not 100% comfortable to shoot. So, after examining each gun the the only difference in the exposed portion of each Glock (22 vs 27) was the grip. I decided to try carrying the Glock 22 with the same garments. I have found that with my body type, my clothing choices, I can carry the Glock 22 with equal concealment. So, more rounds, more comfortable shooting, more accurate with less grip modification. I still use the Glock 27 for fanny pack carrying on my bicycle exercise rides. I just wanted to outline my progression of thought, experimentation in an attempt to maybe help someone else.

CC Italian · Post by **CC Italian** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:41 am

I carry my Glock 20 all the time, nobody is the wiser. I also have a 27 and it’s more of the same when walking around. I do carry my 27 more often when I know I am going out to a restaurant and sitting down. It is a little harder to conceal the grip of the 20 when sitting. I sometimes have to adjust myself or shirt a little when sitting. Once it gets a little cooler and a light jacket is needed at night the 27 becomes a safe queen for the next 3-4 months.

Body type, holster type and clothing really all come together to make the difference. I know a guy who conceals a GP-100 .357 with a 4inch barrel. That is no small feat, not only because the size but also the weight.

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:11 pm

I carry Glock 20 and 29. The grip is def easier to grab on the 20. I added a Pearce grip ext for my pinky on the 29 it did help.

tbrown · Post by **tbrown** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:37 pm

Matt78665 wrote: I have found that with my body type, my clothing choices, I can carry the Glock 22 with equal concealment.

That's an important point. There are individual differences. Just because Bob can conceal a Glock 23 doesn't necessarily mean Chuck can. And just because Bob can't conceal a Glock 24c with optics doesn't mean Dave won't be able to.

Toorop · Post by **Toorop** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:34 pm

Matt78665 wrote:A year or so ago I got my CHL with help from this forum. I had a Glock 22 and a Crossbreed IWB. I read that most where using Glock 27 and Glock 23 for their EDC. So, I followed suit. I got my Glock 27 and practiced with it. I found I could conceal it with no problem wearing the proper garments. I however did notice the grip to be to short for my hand and although I was able to compensate, it was not 100% comfortable to shoot. So, after examining each gun the the only difference in the exposed portion of each Glock (22 vs 27) was the grip. I decided to try carrying the Glock 22 with the same garments. I have found that with my body type, my clothing choices, I can carry the Glock 22 with equal concealment. So, more rounds, more comfortable shooting, more accurate with less grip modification. I still use the Glock 27 for fanny pack carrying on my bicycle exercise rides. I just wanted to outline my progression of thought, experimentation in an attempt to maybe help someone else.

Perhaps the Glock 23 is the gun that is just right for you?

RPB · Post by **RPB** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:17 pm

grip to be to short for my hand

Pearce Grip PG39
gives the pinky finger a home and adds 2 rounds in .40 (Glock 27) and 3 rounds in 9mm (Glock 26) and one round for Glock 39
http://www.pearcegrip.com/Products/GLOCK/PG-39" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Here's the deal for me and my boney behind:
I can conceal a Glock 17 grip with a +3 extension on it, the grip isn't the issue with proper cant/angle but the darn wide as a 2x4 slide ---foot long slide pokes the seat I'm sitting on making a loud clunk on wooden church pews. through the leg of my pants.

The shorter slide I can conceal, I overcame grip lengths.

michael e · Post by **michael e** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:29 pm

I usually carry my G29, yesterday I carried the G20 and it didnt seem any harder to concel. I was in a jersey so that helps. I carry my G23/32/38 when going OWB. Its all about what you wear and where you place your holster.

RPB · Post by **RPB** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:46 pm

Grip length isn't the issue for me, it's the long fat slide ... my 20+1 Glock 26 using Glock 17 mag +3 Pearce Grip PG39

(Of course can carry with just 13+1 too and still have pinky room with the PG39 .. or on a Glock 19 normally 15+1 capacity one could use the PG39 to add 3 more ....
etc

Beiruty · Post by **Beiruty** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:59 pm

How much are the sights installed? How do you like them?

RPB · Post by **RPB** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:05 pm

Beiruty wrote:How much are the sights installed? How do you like them?

Mine? camera flash (and website) doesn't do them justice, I use orange rear. yellow front I tried combinations in various lighting and on various backgrounds/shirt/jacket colors someone might wear. And tried against backlit things to check that you still see a triangle even if you can't see colors. You get ALL colors so you can change them any time. http://www.advantagetactical.com/colors.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Advantage Tactical Sights ... http://www.advantagetactical.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I installed them myself on Glock; easy Instructions come with them and are also available as a PDF on website if you want to see
http://www.advantagetactical.com/installation.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
... I dunno what someone would charge to install them, only takes a few minutes and the tool to do it is included for front sight, you can drive the rear Glock dovetail sight out if you have a flatblade screwdriver and hammer and sit the new one in.... not hard can't imagine it costing much to have done.
On my XD45 I installed the rear, but can't get the original front sight off yet ... not rushing though either.

Um yeah, I have those on my 19, 26, 27, and XD 45 and I only plan to buy guns they make them for so I'll be selling some other brand 380s to buy a P238 because ... I love those sights. Been using them about 3 years now, spoiled I guess on the fast reacquisition for a followup shot.. I really don't intent to own a gun they don't make sights for any more so I guess you can say I like them

I also have the internal Guide rod laser in it there, (for other lighting situations) and made a tiny lanyard hole for in case I go swimming accidentally (fall off my kayak)

C-dub · Post by **C-dub** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:13 pm

I also tried the Pearce mag extender, but didn't like it and I didn't shoot as well with it. While at the range one day a couple next to me were shooting their brand new G27. We talked a bit and they asked about my grip extender. I let them try it and they liked it, so I offered them an even trade for their stock 9-round mag. Everyone was happy.

Matt78665 · Post by **Matt78665** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:15 pm

I tried the grip extenders as well. I found it was just as easy to carry the full sized gun. I know it will not work for everyone, but is the best choice for me.

speedsix · Post by **speedsix** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:47 pm

...I really like those sights...oughta pick up a lotta light inside a building, too...

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