Can you show me your 870 TAC or any other TAC scatter gun

[stroguy]

As I stated in another post I was getting that 870 Tactical since Remington was offering a $30 rebate on 870s. Well I picked it up yesterday and want to see your accessories for your TAC guns. Really interested in slings, lighting, pads and any mean looking accessories.

I also would like to know what loads you are using for HD.

And, if anyone knows a range that allows 00 buck. CC in Spring and the others around here only allow slugs, which I want to shoot but also want to see 00 at different distances. CC also will not allow any under 21 scatter gun shooters. So I cannot familiarize my boys with it.

Thanks

Randy

[MoJo]

I don't have any pics of my shotguns maybe I can take a few tomorrow. I have a Mossberg 500A and a Remington 1100 they aren't too "Tommy Tactical" looking but, looks won't do the job. As far as ammo goes I use either low recoil 00 Buck and Slugs or full power 00 Buck and slugs. Brands I use are Federal, Remington, Winchester, Rio, and Nobel Sport. I really like the 12 pellet 2 3/4" 00 load from Nobel Sport. Buckshot and slugs can be a bit rough in the recoil department so the reduced recoil loads are great in an 870 or 500. Some semi-autos won't run with reduced recoil shells and you need full power. My 1100 doesn't seem to care between low and full power shells. Watch, I'll post some photos tomorrow if I can.

[Skiprr]

I do trust my Remmy:



Special tactical model, including an improved fixed choke, magazine extension, and the Knoxx (Blackhawk) stock.

[The Annoyed Man]

I do trust my Remmy:



Special tactical model, including an improved fixed choke, magazine extension, and the Knoxx (Blackhawk) stock.

Hey Skiprr, how effective are those stocks in taming recoil? I currently don't own a Tactical shotgun. Skeet's one of my pastimes, and my shotgun is a 12 gauge O/U with 36" vented barrels.....great for follow through, but not much for handiness. But if I invest in some kind of HD shotgun, I'd like to get one that my wife would be comfortable shooting if she had to. She's already a little recoil sensitive with her 20 gauge O/U, and 3 rounds of skeet is about her limit before she complains of soreness and bruising. I've asked her if she wants to try and shoot my heavier 12 gauge, but she has enough trouble (chronic shoulder issues) mounting the much lighter 20 gauge. So any 12 gauge HD shotgun that she will be able to shoot relatively comfortably will have to have the seemingly conflicting characteristics of low weight and less perceived recoil. That stock looks like it has potential, and if it really does work, I'd be willing to invest in a pump gun with one of those.

[Jumping Frog]

... taming recoil? ... that my wife would be comfortable shooting if she had to. She's already a little recoil sensitive ... of low weight and less perceived recoil. That stock looks like it has potential, and if it really does work, I'd be willing to invest in a pump gun with one of those.

TAM, one option to consider: a gas-operated auto-loader is going to have noticeably less recoil than a pump.

[speedsix]

...when I was a lad, my first Stevens 311, though not a lightweight by any means, kicked my bony shoulder and hurt bad...I took a small sheet of lead from the hardware store, rolled it, and put it down the bolt hole in the stock under the recoil pad, which was just the thin factory one...not padded at all...it really helped a lot...and I didn't mind the extra weight...some shot might do the same...

[LittleGun]

I am in a similar position with my new 870. Here are the items I'm looking at:

Mesa Tactical
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I like having a stock on my 870 that is similar to my AR-15, and I like stocks that are adjustable. At first, I thought I wanted the Mesa Tactical High Tube setup, that mimics both stock and sighting of the AR-15. Now I think I'll get the low style LEO stock and leave the simple bead sighting as it is.

[snatchel]

TAM, In response to your question of a HD scatter gun that is relatively easy on recoil... I have a suggestion. Benelli M4. It's semi-auto, and a dandy to shoot. I bought one after playing with the Navy version in Afghanistan... I loved it. Recoil is seriously dampened.. I paid about $1,000 at a gun show a few months ago, and the only reason I justified that was because my wife can handle it. She is 5'3 and weighs around 105 lbs... Tiny little thing. She has a blast with it blowing out double 00, no problem :) I'm sure there are cheaper alternatives out there, but that's what I have to offer!

[MoJo]

As promised here's some pics of my non-tacticool guns.

First the 1100



now the "toothy" ported choke tube.



Other enhancements include a +3 mag tube, a Choate Combat Bolt Handle, and a Dave's Metal Works Easy Loader.

The Mossy



The Williams rear sight with a ghost ring.



The Williams front sight and the light.



The Mossy also has a side saddle and a limbsaver recoil pad. I don't put stuff on a gun just to make it look cool. There were solid reasons for each enhancement I put on these guns. I will trust either of them to keep me alive if the need ever arises.

[Skiprr]

... taming recoil? ... that my wife would be comfortable shooting if she had to. She's already a little recoil sensitive ... of low weight and less perceived recoil. That stock looks like it has potential, and if it really does work, I'd be willing to invest in a pump gun with one of those.

TAM, one option to consider: a gas-operated auto-loader is going to have noticeably less recoil than a pump.

Yep. There are two main reasons you see semi-autos used in three-gun matches, and pumps not so much. First is potential firing speed (you just can't cycle a pump, even if you pre-tension it, as fast as a semi-auto will cycle), and second is better recoil control that improves getting back on target for follow-up shots.

The stock on mine is what used to be the Knoxx SpecOps Stock. Knoxx sold the patent (at least, I think that's what transpired) to Blackhawk a few years ago. It's an easy aftermarket install, but Remington used to license the stocks when they were manufactured by Knoxx and made them available in factory configurations of their "Tactical" model shotties. I don't think Remington continued that practice after the Blackhawk acquisition.

Anyway, the Knoxx stock has a four-inch length of pull adjustment, which I like, and which can be handy for smaller shooters. There are two coiled-spring assemblies in the stock, one in the pistol grip where it attaches to the frame, and one in the butt of the stock. Both these heavy springs are stretched when you squeeze off a round, absorbing some of the recoil. There's also a rubber end-plate on the butt of the stock, but that has more effect in keeping the stock seated positively on your shoulder, IMHO, than providing any real recoil reduction.

The claim has always been "can reduce felt recoil by up to 85%." Dunno about that, personally. But the difference is quite perceptible. I always wondered why Knoxx never backed a standard-stock 870 up to a pressure plate, then repeated the operation with one equipped with the SpecOps stock in order to report hard data about the recoil difference, but to my knowledge that was never done.

Subjectively, with standard load 3-inch 12-guage 00 shells, I'd say the felt recoil--to me--is about cut in half. I've never tried it with reduced recoil loads, but I would think that would make it even more comfortable. I also haven't fired a 20-guage in more years than I can count, so I can't compare the two.

But I do like the stocks--have two of 'em--and think it's worth a shot...pun intended. TAM, too bad you live way up there in the northern territories, or I'd be happy to haul the 870 out to the range for you and your wife to try.