Going to a Globetrotters' game this weekend at the Toyota Center in downtown Houston. Does what they do constitute a "Professional Sporting Event?" I am afraid it does, but want your opinions, please.
Also, which would be the better option (lesser of two evils): go to downtown Houston gunless or leave the gun locked in the car (assuming that the Globetrotters' game is a professional sporting event)?
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Agree w/ txi on #1.
Lock it in the car for #2. Yes lesser of 2 very Evil EVILS.
Lock it in the car for #2. Yes lesser of 2 very Evil EVILS.
Carry 24-7 or guess right.
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Hes sir. I have a lock box in my truck for the rare time I have to do that.
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IMO it is a pro sporting event...they often have anohter team as part of their show to make it appear as a real game.
Of course there is no guarantee that your gun will be in the car, but if there is nothing attractive to a thief in the car.....I would say go for it.
I have left mine many times in the trunk and never had a problem. I would much rather have it in the parking lot (read battle ground) if things went south. Much better to take a small chance on it being stolen than to encounter a situation where it is needed and left at home.
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Of course there is no guarantee that your gun will be in the car, but if there is nothing attractive to a thief in the car.....I would say go for it.
I have left mine many times in the trunk and never had a problem. I would much rather have it in the parking lot (read battle ground) if things went south. Much better to take a small chance on it being stolen than to encounter a situation where it is needed and left at home.
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Seriously, guys... stop and look at the nature of the Globetrotters. The key question to ask is, who are they playing?
If it's the "New York Nationals", it's simply not a basketball game. It's a "sports entertainment" exhibition, not a sporting event.
They do play real teams from time to time, in which case it would be a "sporting event". But you don't get a record of more than 20,000 wins and 332 losses by playing teams other than the same one that travels on the bus with you from town to town.
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If it's the "New York Nationals", it's simply not a basketball game. It's a "sports entertainment" exhibition, not a sporting event.
They do play real teams from time to time, in which case it would be a "sporting event". But you don't get a record of more than 20,000 wins and 332 losses by playing teams other than the same one that travels on the bus with you from town to town.
Kevin
KBCraig wrote:Seriously, guys... stop and look at the nature of the Globetrotters. The key question to ask is, who are they playing?
If it's the "New York Nationals", it's simply not a basketball game. It's a "sports entertainment" exhibition, not a sporting event.
They do play real teams from time to time, in which case it would be a "sporting event". But you don't get a record of more than 20,000 wins and 332 losses by playing teams other than the same one that travels on the bus with you from town to town.
Kevin
It is not a sporting event, it is a sporting entertainment event.Don't Lose Your Head , Your Brains Are In It !!
At my age the only thing thats getting better is my FORGETTER.
At my age the only thing thats getting better is my FORGETTER.
The Globetrotters seems to be entertainment.
The real problem is with Toyota Center. This is a test case waiting to happen.
They have a lot of signage posted on the glass near entrance doors. Among the restrictions, appears to be 30.06, but it is a bit difficult to read becase the lettering is on glass so I wasn't certain if it was compliant in verbage or if the letters were 1" tall.
Also, they are known for searching people's purses, bags and bodies for video cameras and weapons. Toyota Center's written policy is no weapons of any kind are allowed in the building. So, even if the signage is not fully compliant with legislation, and they wand you or pat you down, they will tell you that you are not allowed in with a handgun or worse, charge you with criminal trespass. This will happen in front of hundreds of people. Becoming notorious is in direct conflict with your goal of keeping concealed.
My wife and I went to Toyota Center in December for a Mannheim Steamroller Christmas concert and, knowing their security plan, the handgun remained locked in the car. I did not enjoy the walk on the downtown streets at night. On this night, security was not strict. They only looked into ladies purses, on the lookout for video cameras. The magnetic wands were near the doors, but were not used. I could have had 2 pistols and 3 video cameras under my coat and they would not have known it. I guess the crowd for this event was not considered "high risk". In any case, I will not return to this venue.
The real problem is with Toyota Center. This is a test case waiting to happen.
They have a lot of signage posted on the glass near entrance doors. Among the restrictions, appears to be 30.06, but it is a bit difficult to read becase the lettering is on glass so I wasn't certain if it was compliant in verbage or if the letters were 1" tall.
Also, they are known for searching people's purses, bags and bodies for video cameras and weapons. Toyota Center's written policy is no weapons of any kind are allowed in the building. So, even if the signage is not fully compliant with legislation, and they wand you or pat you down, they will tell you that you are not allowed in with a handgun or worse, charge you with criminal trespass. This will happen in front of hundreds of people. Becoming notorious is in direct conflict with your goal of keeping concealed.
My wife and I went to Toyota Center in December for a Mannheim Steamroller Christmas concert and, knowing their security plan, the handgun remained locked in the car. I did not enjoy the walk on the downtown streets at night. On this night, security was not strict. They only looked into ladies purses, on the lookout for video cameras. The magnetic wands were near the doors, but were not used. I could have had 2 pistols and 3 video cameras under my coat and they would not have known it. I guess the crowd for this event was not considered "high risk". In any case, I will not return to this venue.
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Professional Sporting Event. Basketball is a sport, and the participants in the Globetrotters games are paid for their participation.
I don't think it matters WHO they play, or if it is not a sanctioned game.
Course, I tend to think like a simpleton.
I don't think it matters WHO they play, or if it is not a sanctioned game.
Course, I tend to think like a simpleton.
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do I detect some, dare I say, sarcasm?????txinvestigator wrote:Course, I tend to think like a simpleton.
noooo!
anyway, dude's right, it doesn't matter what you think of the people doing the act, if they are being paid to do it, they are technically professionals.
sounds pretty broad, don't it? but it's true.
I was a "professional" musician for years. in high school and college.
wait a min, not in college, you can't do that.
yeah, buhleeve me, it was a big flippin' deal to sort out.
you get paid to do eeet, you're a professional. That's why the WWF changed their name to the WWE.
they had to get the F out, and turn it into an E because that's what it was, entertainment. that way they could get away with those dudes using roids, and the matches being scripted.
they're still pros, though.