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Crime and fire statistics

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Ok, so I couldn't sleep and I got to thinking about Tallmike's post about being prepared . I didn't want to hijack his thread so I am starting a new one.

I completely agree with him about being prepared, that's why we have Smoke detectors in every room and hallway. I do need to add a CO detector, although we don't use gas in the house so it would be hard for us to get any. We also have fire extinguishers (note to self, we need more) However this is not the purpose of my post.

I'll quit babbling and get to the point. A couple years ago I read (I believe in an NRA magazine) that a person was more likely to be the victim of violent crime than a house fire. I used to use the figures in my class and have since forgotten what the numbers were. So....since I couldn't sleep and woke up early thinking about this I did some digging. Just to be clear, we need to be prepared for everything we can fires and crimes among other things.

In my digging here is what I got:

( I used 2009 since there was data available )

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Report in 2009
With Total Population of 307,006,550
There were:
429.4 violent crimes per 100,000 in the US
3036 Property Crimes per 100,0000
716.3 Burglarys per 100,000 and
133 Roberies per 100,000

According to the 2009 Census as quoted by Answer.com

In 2009 there were
91,241,000 Single Detached and Manf. Homes
if you count ALL housing units there were 130,159,000

In 2009 there were 480,000 structure fires

That number was not broken down into types of structures but I will use it any way.
So let's take the number of all housing units and all structure fires.

130,159,000 dwellings devided by 100,000 =1301

480,500 fires devided by 1301= 369 per 100,000

I feel like I am in math class. LOL Just posting my work so you guys can clue me in if I am wrong. It's early and I am not a mathmatician.

So by my figures there were :
429.4 violent crimes per 100,000 people and
369 fires per 100,000 Housing Units

I know the fire number would be lower if we had the actual house fire figure instead of the "structure" fire number. I will continue to look for it. I would also like to know the number of people involved in each fire to get a number of how many people per 100,000 were affected. Obviously I have more work to do.

Unfortunately both numbers are high, so be prepared and be careful out there. :patriot:
Carry safe and carry when and where you can. I'm just sayin'.
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So by my figures there were :
429.4 violent crimes per 100,000 people and
369 fires per 100,000 Housing Units

Not to veer to far off topic, but its interesting the liberal "no-CHL" uptopia of Canada appears to
have much higher violent crime rates:

" In 2010, the violent crime rate declined in all provinces with the exception of Newfoundland and Labrador and Saskatchewan. Saskatchewan continues to report the highest provincial rate (2,550 per 100,000). Ontario had the lowest rate of all the provinces (985 per 100,000). "

source: https://osi.alberta.ca/osi-content/Page ... inces.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

other data:
http://www4.hrsdc.gc.ca/.3ndic.1t.4r@-eng.jsp?iid=57" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Canada" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Hmmmm

Would be interesting to see the figures for TEXAS, however the numbers I posted were for the entire US.
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362500 house structure fires in 2009
http://www.nfpa.org/itemDetail.asp?cate ... e%5Ftest=1
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The that would bring it down to 278 per 100,000
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Seabear wrote:So by my figures there were :
429.4 violent crimes per 100,000 people and
369 fires per 100,000 Housing Units
Interesting conclusion, so I hate to bring up something contrary...

What is the average number of people per housing unit?
If it's more than 1.17 people, than a fire is more likely than a violent crime.
1.17 = 429.4 / 369
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Thomas wrote:
Seabear wrote:So by my figures there were :
429.4 violent crimes per 100,000 people and
369 fires per 100,000 Housing Units
Interesting conclusion, so I hate to bring up something contrary...

What is the average number of people per housing unit?
If it's more than 1.17 people, than a fire is more likely than a violent crime.
1.17 = 429.4 / 369
I had already thought of that and was wondering how to search that out. The other problem is how many victims were involved in each violent crime? It gets harder and harder,, but it is a start. :headscratch
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Seabear wrote:
Thomas wrote:
Seabear wrote:So by my figures there were :
429.4 violent crimes per 100,000 people and
369 fires per 100,000 Housing Units
Interesting conclusion, so I hate to bring up something contrary...

What is the average number of people per housing unit?
If it's more than 1.17 people, than a fire is more likely than a violent crime.
1.17 = 429.4 / 369
I had already thought of that and was wondering how to search that out. The other problem is how many victims were involved in each violent crime? It gets harder and harder,, but it is a start. :headscratch
In 2010, U.S. fire departments responded to 369,500 home structure1 fires. These fires caused 13,350 civilian injuries, 2,640 civilian deaths, $6.9 billion in direct damage.

in 2009 2,565 deaths and 12,650 injuries see table in:

http://www.nfpa.org/itemDetail.asp?cate ... e%5Ftest=1
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