San Antonio Livestock Exposition

[srothstein]

Well, I went to the rodeo in San Antonio today and saw the sign properly posted for 30.06. Of course, I pointed it out to my wife and then told her why it makes no sense to post (the property is owned by the county).

But then we had an interesting side discussion on other parts of the law. Since there is a PRCA rodeo going on, this is definitely a professional sporting event. What are the limits of where that applies. Clearly, a CHL could not carry into the actual AT&T Center where the rodeo is being held, but can you carry on the rest of the livestock show grounds? I think you could because there is a separate admission price for the rodeo as opposed to walking around the livestock show part, but there are other events in various barns on the grounds. Do some of them may qualify as a professional sporting event? If there is a contest going on, that is considered a sport such as rodeo or team penning, and it is for amateurs like myself, does it count? Most of them are jackpot events where there is some money paid out. Is that enough to make it a professional event?

And since most of the show is by kids and the school agriculture clubs, does it count as school events? I don't know of a school in the area that would not let a kid out to compete and there are lots of schools where the school goes as a team. Then there are all the schools that bring the young kids in for educational programs, which are put on by governmental and educational (ag extension service is state government and TAMU combination) institutions.

My conclusion was that you could carry since the events are not targeted at people making a living at the sport. I think that would be most people's definition of professional. And I think the school part doesn't apply anymore than it would at a zoo if there happened to be a class trip there while you were visiting. It just is not what I think the state legislature intended to be covered.

So, how do you all feel? At what level does it take money being paid to turn an event into a professional sporting event? Would you carry on these grounds?

[longtooth]

I would carry. Have to pass the Rodeo as much as I would like to go. Wish they would fix this too. Make them post like the hospitals.
You can bet the big ball parks would & the Country Expo Centers would not.

[ElGato]

I agree with you on all the points you made and have carried with the exception of the pro. rodeo events. I do have to admit that I am also not clear on some things, I think that 4H is an outside the school activity but I am not sure about the FFA.

I seldom go to the ''rodeo'' but do like to go to the all day event's, cutting and ropeing mostly and I think that if we get down to splitting hair's there is a difference in the Pro Cutting as compared to the Open Cutting, I don't have the time to go to go often so I usually go to the Open events and believe I am staying legal.

[AG-EE]

The livestock shows are not a school sponsored activity, so I don't think they count. Just because they let school aged kids compete doesn't mean it is a function of a school or schools. I think you were correct in your assessment.