Asking permission from host when visiting their home?

age_ranger · Post by **age_ranger** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:09 pm

I chose it depends on the host because there's some people who I know are pro-gun and I simply extend a slight bit of courtesy and respect to them. I made the mistake of informing my father at his house and was asked to remove it form the house immediately. Had I kept quiet, they would have never known, but it was funny how quickly my own family turned against me.

Post by **carlson1** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:10 pm

HankB wrote:Three relevant sayings come to mind . . .

"Silence is golden."

"Concealed means concealed."

"Ask forgiveness, not permission."

That pretty much sums up my life in every building I go into (without metal detectors). I am not for sure that everyone understands "concealed."

bigolbigun · Post by **bigolbigun** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:23 pm

longtooth wrote:Every home I enter, I take it for granted they have theirs on. They should expect the same high standard of character out of me.

+1 for me too, sums it up perfectly

stash · Post by **stash** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:20 am

Like some here have said, my business is my business. I don't tell/ask anyone.

kw5kw · Post by **kw5kw** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:50 am

This reminds me of the days of yesteryear when honest, upright, hardworking and well-respected people wore their sidearms out in the open and the criminals, card sharks, and other low-life wore their sidearms concealed. Why would they want to hide their intentions, because they live in the dark, but all things in the dark will come to light... won't it LT?

I know that the law, of today, is concealed, but I still feel that I'm living a life of deceit by hiding my sidearm. I'd much rather be honest with people and not lie to them, hide it from them and have them find out my deceit later.

This is just the way that I feel. I feel like a criminal, at times, having my handgun hidden and I don't like that feeling. Why? Because the LORD teaches us to be honest, upright and straight forth (2Co 13:7; Phi 4:8).

Russ

glocklvr · Post by **glocklvr** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:22 pm

I try to give people the same courtesy that I expect and if someone has a gun in my house I want to know about it eventhough the only people that enter my house are people I know and trust and am not worried about so yes most of the time I do let people know about my gun especially on overnight stays with children in the house. Most of my close friends are aware of my little secret and would be completely surprised if I was unarmed and I don't have to mention my gun when I go into their house.

casselthief · Post by **casselthief** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:54 pm

carlson1 wrote:
HankB wrote:Three relevant sayings come to mind . . .

"Silence is golden."

"Concealed means concealed."

"Ask forgiveness, not permission."
That pretty much sums up my life in every building I go into (without metal detectors). I am not for sure that everyone understands "concealed."

you're assuming we're all whippin' out our smoke wagons and hollarin' "Hey evrabody, I gots a guuUUuun."
no.
and why would I not want to share my new found joy of going to the range, and/or talking about the glories of my .357?
I talk about guns with my friends the same as I would talk about guitars.
I know, no one here gives a flip about gee-tars, but we do.
we talk about the different types of transformers in the amplifiers we use, and why tube amps sound sooOOooo much better than solid state... blah blah blahdibbity

now, for instance, I go to someone's house (girlfriend's friend) that I don't know. I'm not going to advertise my "dirty little secret" unless it's needed.
if the conversation comes up about ballistics, then I'll bring it up.
if the host has an issue, I'll try to talk them down from the ledge, and will offer to leave.
that's how I roll.
you see, if you act like it's a big deal, then it IS a big deal.
if you nonchalantly act like, "Yeah, I wanna be able to defend myself." as if everyone should, it takes the political hot-button out of the issue.

Post by **carlson1** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:14 pm

casselthief wrote:you're assuming we're all whippin' out our smoke wagons and hollarin' "Hey evrabody, I gots a guuUUuun."

Not assuming just answering the question that was asked, "Do you feel obligated to ask permission from your host to carry in their home?"

NO, I do not feel obligated. I go into a lot of peoples home in my line of work and I do not feel that I have announce or "share" what I consider a line of defense not a hobby or joy.
The shooting range or a shooting class is a different setting and scenario Several days ago had lunch with a DPS friend we shared war stories and talked guns. Two weeks ago stopped into Region 6 office and visited with old friends and talked about guns, but not when I go to someone's home for dinner etc. . .

Post by **Crossfire** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:15 pm

longtooth wrote:Every home I enter, I take it for granted they have theirs on. They should expect the same high standard of character out of me.

Most people that know me well enough to invite me into their home, also know me well enough to know what I do to supplement my income.

casselthief · Post by **casselthief** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:47 pm

carlson1 wrote: Not assuming just answering the question that was asked, "Do you feel obligated to ask permission from your host to carry in their home?"

NO, I do not feel obligated. I go into a lot of peoples home in my line of work

If they are a "host," then it is a social setting, and I'm probably friends with them and/or acquaintances.
a work setting is considerably different.
I only talk guns to my friends (social) at work, not just any ole Dr (work) that comes strolling through.
and no one at work has seen my pistols, 'cept my one buddy that I go to the range with.

I was responding to your accusation that "some people" don't know what "concealed" means.

Post by **carlson1** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:03 pm

casselthief wrote:I was responding to your accusation that "some people" don't know what "concealed" means.

EXACTLY - concealed - "to prevent disclosure or recognition of <conceal the truth>" NO SHOW and NO TELL. My opinion

txinvestigator · Post by **txinvestigator** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:47 pm

carlson1 wrote:
casselthief wrote:I was responding to your accusation that "some people" don't know what "concealed" means.
EXACTLY - concealed - "to prevent disclosure or recognition of <conceal the truth>" NO SHOW and NO TELL. My opinion

Actually Texas law has a specific definition; '

(3) "Concealed handgun" means a handgun, the presence of
which is not openly discernible to the ordinary observation of a
reasonable person.'

There have been other threads about carrring into others homes. I carry where I carry. I carried at a July 4th party and a good frineds home. When it came time for a hot tub and swim in the pool, I changed in the bathroom and secured the weapon in my gym bag, which went right to the pool with me.

Braden · Post by **Braden** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:46 pm

I never ask, but the people whose homes I visit wouldn't care even if they knew (some of them DO know).

Popshot · Post by **Popshot** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:04 am

Had I kept quiet, they would have never known, but it was funny how quickly my own family turned against me.

Exactly why I have not told my family. We live 300 miles apart, so visits are not frequent.

I have carried undetected in my parents house. When my brother and his daughters are involved, I lock it away, as the girls use their old uncle for roughhousing.

John · Post by **John** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:57 am

longtooth wrote:Every home I enter, I take it for granted they have theirs on. They should expect the same high standard of character out of me.

Good Answer! I think Louisiana has the same requirement to inform. Texas, no!