FOX26: Proposed gun law allow guns against carjackers

[Boma]

It's in Tennessee and I saw it this morning on FOX26 news. They're proposing a new law that allows people to use guns against car jackers. I would assume this is for non-CHL holders since they have CHL over there.

[KBCraig]

It might be for CHLs, too. I don't know, but Tennessee might be a "retreat first" state.

Arkansas is waiting for the governor to sign their "stand your ground" law. I don't have the final wording of the bill, because their legislature's web site is horrible to navigate, and doesn't make it clear if you're viewing the final enrolled form.

Kevin

[stevie_d_64]

I saw this too earlier today...

All of these laws are very similar in wording throughout the states vying to get them passed into law...

What I find annoying is that the media tries to slip in that these laws "authorize" the use of deadly force, and I don't believe that is the primary intent of these bills...

I believe these laws are meant to be a "defense to the prosecution", and not an authorization to used deadly force...And thats how I see that there is a concerted effort to undermine the intent of these bills...

But they will pass, and when all is said and done, we will have always known that these bills were there to protect us from the unreasonable attempts to encourage families and other entities from taking you to court for mainly civil reasons to soak you for protecting yourself from (he was always a good boy, never hurt anybody) bull...

Will I continue to practice good judgement and be a reasonable person if I ever have to defend myself??? Yes...

Will these bills lossen my principles or threashold of where the line is drawn??? No...

So really, these bills/laws just don't change to much on how I do things...I don't think they should do too much other than give you a little more protection when and if you do defend yourself...

Thats just my take on it...

[KBCraig]

As it turns out, the bill passed by the Arkansas Legislature wasn't the very good HB1027 ("Stand your ground"), but the milquetoast SB2 ("Removing the duty to retreat").

Unlike the house bill, SB2 contains no civil suit protection. Deadly force is not authorized if the person can avoid the use of deadly force by A) Retreating in complete safety; or B) Surrendering property to someone who claims a lawful right to such property.

Retreat is not required in one's own home or its curtilage. But in an interesting twist, they defined curtilage to include only those outbuildings "in direct and intimate connection with the dwelling and in close proximity to the dwelling". I don't know if detached garages or barns would be included.

All in all, it's a lame, "Look how pro-gun we are!" attempt.

Kevin

[lrb111]

I mostly interpret them that it will no longer be mandatory for me to run from each and every criminal at their each and every whim, lest I be sued into oblivion.
Guns, knives, clubs, pepper spray just aren't pertinent to the discussion, imo.