Suggestions for AR10 .308

[mikey1969]

i would love to buy an AR10 .308 (new) and i am looking suggestions on what to buy ......... looking for value for money without spending a fortune ...... anything available for around $700 ????

[The Annoyed Man]

i would love to buy an AR10 .308 (new) and i am looking suggestions on what to buy ......... looking for value for money without spending a fortune ...... anything available for around $700 ????

My guess is that you're not going to find anything new for that price. That's even cheap for an AR15, and the AR10s tend to cost more. You're going to be looking more at $1,000 on up, even for a used one in good shape. Mine was $3,000.

[mikey1969]

i would love to buy an AR10 .308 (new) and i am looking suggestions on what to buy ......... looking for value for money without spending a fortune ...... anything available for around $700 ????

My guess is that you're not going to find anything new for that price. That's even cheap for an AR15, and the AR10s tend to cost more. You're going to be looking more at $1,000 on up, even for a used one in good shape. Mine was $3,000.

thanks for the reply and advice .... guess i will up my budget ... thanks again

[The Annoyed Man]

i would love to buy an AR10 .308 (new) and i am looking suggestions on what to buy ......... looking for value for money without spending a fortune ...... anything available for around $700 ????

My guess is that you're not going to find anything new for that price. That's even cheap for an AR15, and the AR10s tend to cost more. You're going to be looking more at $1,000 on up, even for a used one in good shape. Mine was $3,000.

thanks for the reply and advice .... guess i will up my budget ... thanks again

You're certainly welcome, and don't be freaked out about the $3000 value of mine. It is customized and accurized and has trick parts on it.

DPMS Sportical: http://dpmsinc.3dcartstores.com/308-SPO ... _97-1.html $1,029.00

DPMS Oracle: http://dpmsinc.3dcartstores.com/308-ORA ... _98-1.html $1,099.00

DPMS Classic: http://dpmsinc.3dcartstores.com/308-Cla ... 100-1.html $1,129.00

DPMS TAC20 http://dpmsinc.3dcartstores.com/TAC20_ep_101-1.html $1,299.00

Thats about right for a "basic" AR10.

Good luck.

[eureka40]

Here are some options from DPMS:

http://dpmsinc.3dcartstores.com/Long-Ra ... _74-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've owned a DPMS carbine. They make a good product. But you could upgrade to a LaRue OBR:

http://www.laruetactical.com/obr-762" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Way out of my budget though!!!

[gigag04]

I think the LMT needs a nod too

[The Annoyed Man]

Those are both nice rifles, but the OP was looking for inexpensive. That's why I posted the DPMS links.

[eureka40]

Yep, TAM knows what he talking about. And like I said, DPMS does make a good rifle. I never had any problems with mine. And it didn't break the budget. It's a very good option.

[mrvmax]

CMMG:http://www.nelsontactical.com/shopping/ ... -4927.html

[Estand]

I love my dpms ap4 308. It's been flawless.

[Longshot38]

For a large frame AR you are going to spend some money. Nothing about them is cheap. My DPMS in it's original 308 setup cost me about $1800 to build, this price includes tools and extra magazines.



And as it sits now, a 6.5 Credmoor with a more appropriate optic, I have over $3000 in it.



I understand not wanting to spend unnecessary money but I see question like yours all the time. People wanting gold at the price of silver. The world simply doesn't work like that. If you want to good rifle you will need to spend some money that is all there is to it. An entry level large frame AR and a quality optic will run you somewhere between $1800-2000. And you can quickly run up a bill of $3K if you start tricking it out.

[The Annoyed Man]

Yeah, and I have a $3000 AR10 without the optic I added to it—$4,700 if you add in the optic and mount. Sure, you can spend as much as you want. But it really is possible to have a decent utilitarian AR10 from DPMS for under $1,300.00, and you can even get one for about $1,100.00. I listed a half dozen examples in my previous post. It won't be a SASS weapon, but it will be a perfectly good .308 caliber battle rifle of acceptable accuracy for a battle rifle, ether as a full length rifle (20+ inch barrel) or as a carbine length rifle. And I think that is all the OP wanted. I wouldn't denigrate that choice, and it is certainly possible in that price range. You and I have chosen to pour money into ours to achieve a greater degree of accuracy and range, but not everybody wants or needs to do that. You can kill a deer with a $400 Savage "package" bolt rifle just as easily as you can with a $1,500 Remington 700 topped with a $1,500 scope..........if that's all you want to do. The custom Remington is nice, but it isn't necessary to spend that kind of money to have a satisfactory ownership experience with a general purpose bolt rifle.

And that's what the OP wants....a general purpose AR10. When you say "I see question like yours all the time. People wanting gold at the price of silver. The world simply doesn't work like that," it sounds a little dismissive. If he hunts around, he can find a DPMS carbine for $1000 used, in pretty good shape. Back when I was shopping for my AR10, a guy out in front of Cheaper than Dirt in Fort Worth tried to sell me his in the parking lot for $950, and it was in practically new condition with a really low round count. It just wasn't what I was looking for, or I would have bought it. I always counsel to buy the best optic you can, but for plenty of people, a relatively inexpensive Nikon variable power scope can be had for around $300-$400 or less. That combination will do fine for most people's needs.....if all they want to do is a little hunting, and go poke some holes in paper at 100 yards once in a while. It goes without saying that it takes cubic dollars to build something that will be accurate in the 600 to 800 yard range, but that's just not what most people are trying to do. So I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss and/or discourage the OP from pursuing his dream. And later, if he wants to upgrade, he can do so because that is one of the wonderful things about the modular design of the AR platform rifles.

That's just my 2¢.

Nice rifle though.

[Longshot38]

TAM I not trying to discourage the OP, but his original stated budget of $700 simply will not work. And when speaking of a and AR type platform one thing some does not want to do is go cheap, especially when speaking of large frame ARs. A bolt action rifle is a much simpler device and can tolerate a lot more without suffering from malfunctions. However an AR is a very different animal. Second rate parts and poor workmanship in an AR add up to poorly preforming rifle that will drive the user crazy try to figure it out, and what is the fun in that. Thus back to my original post if one figures $1200 budget for an entry level factory rifle then adds in the cost of quality optics and mounts the price will get you to $1800. Now I'm not saying everyone needs a Premier, S&B, Hensoldt, or Nightforce scope to get the job done. I'm only suggesting that the OP make a wise investment and purchase something that will server him well no matter what he does with the rifle. Vortex, Bushnell, Millet, and SWFA all offer excellent low cost optics. Some of which have matched turrets and reticles. So why go cheap when you can get decent stuff without spending a fortune. And when speaking of mounts, they are not all created equal. But again one doesn't have to break the bank to get something decent. Seekings rings can be had for $120 and TPS for about $80-$90. One piece mounts vary widely in price but I found my Weaver for a good price and it is decent mount, however no where near the quality of NEAR, GDI, or Bobro. And the price reflects it.

So no the OP doesn't have to buy high end to get something decent, but he will have to expand on the original budget. And he does need to understand that the world of large frame ARs is a world unto itself. The products are different, the pricing is different, and the end use if different.

[The Annoyed Man]

TAM I not trying to discourage the OP, but his original stated budget of $700 simply will not work. And when speaking of a and AR type platform one thing some does not want to do is go cheap, especially when speaking of large frame ARs. A bolt action rifle is a much simpler device and can tolerate a lot more without suffering from malfunctions. However an AR is a very different animal. Second rate parts and poor workmanship in an AR add up to poorly preforming rifle that will drive the user crazy try to figure it out, and what is the fun in that. Thus back to my original post if one figures $1200 budget for an entry level factory rifle then adds in the cost of quality optics and mounts the price will get you to $1800. Now I'm not saying everyone needs a Premier, S&B, Hensoldt, or Nightforce scope to get the job done. I'm only suggesting that the OP make a wise investment and purchase something that will server him well no matter what he does with the rifle. Vortex, Bushnell, Millet, and SWFA all offer excellent low cost optics. Some of which have matched turrets and reticles. So why go cheap when you can get decent stuff without spending a fortune. And when speaking of mounts, they are not all created equal. But again one doesn't have to break the bank to get something decent. Seekings rings can be had for $120 and TPS for about $80-$90. One piece mounts vary widely in price but I found my Weaver for a good price and it is decent mount, however no where near the quality of NEAR, GDI, or Bobro. And the price reflects it.

So no the OP doesn't have to buy high end to get something decent, but he will have to expand on the original budget. And he does need to understand that the world of large frame ARs is a world unto itself. The products are different, the pricing is different, and the end use if different.

I guess I misunderstood your intent. Sorry about that. I too advised the OP that $700 wasn't going to get him into the game.

Mine, prior to installation of Smith Vortex flash hider. I've also since swapped out the bipod for a short 6-9" Harris BR with a swivel, and a Harris rotating bipod adapter (LINKEY):




Here's what that combination of kit looks like all up (not my rifle):

[Sidro]

Mikey1969 if you don't find what you are looking for in the near future pm me. I have a Sportical with a Bushnell 3x9 bdc and an Ap4 with a Nikon 3x9 bdc, both with high mounts, I might be talked out of one of them.