The scapegoating of Nancy Lanza

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Re: The scapegoating of Nancy Lanza

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In allowing unrestricted access to firearms to an unstable family member
I have not read that..... is that the going version?
They were just laying out and about? in a unlocked cabinet or something?

Even if placed in a locked cabinet but key location was known, same deal.. UNSECURED.
If placed in a safe, but combo was known by son.. same deal UNSECURED.


If they were truly secured and the shooter obtained them by significant force... well then.... I'd have to retract my comments on her liability.
Right now, I just don't know.... :headscratch
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Re: The scapegoating of Nancy Lanza

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E.Marquez wrote:
In allowing unrestricted access to firearms to an unstable family member
I have not read that..... is that the going version?
They were just laying out and about? in a unlocked cabinet or something?

Even if placed in a locked cabinet but key location was known, same deal.. UNSECURED.
If placed in a safe, but combo was known by son.. same deal UNSECURED.


If they were truly secured and the shooter obtained them by significant force... well then.... I'd have to retract my comments on her liability.
Right now, I just don't know.... :headscratch
...and neither does anyone else.
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Re: The scapegoating of Nancy Lanza

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E.Marquez wrote:
In allowing unrestricted access to firearms to an unstable family member
I have not read that..... is that the going version?
They were just laying out and about? in a unlocked cabinet or something?

Even if placed in a locked cabinet but key location was known, same deal.. UNSECURED.
If placed in a safe, but combo was known by son.. same deal UNSECURED.
I don't know whether they were kept in a safe or the back of the closet or were just laying around, but it goes without saying that if he had access, they were unsecured. As to the other part, there is a young marine from Newtown who claims to be a family friend of the Lanzas, who said that Nancy Lanza had be increasingly frustrated in dealing with her son, who was according to this witness increasingly and violent and hard to control; and she had been taking steps toward having him institutionalized. According to this witness, it was the son's anger against his mother over the possibility of being institutionalized which drove him to do what he did.

I can't speak to other news outlets, as I don't bother watching them anymore, but this angel was widely reported on both Fox News and on the local DFW Fox affiliate. If other networks were spiking this story, it is simply because it is not convenient to their "guns bad/no guns good" meme. But Fox did cover it.

Old Gringo, somebody knows......

Fox News Story Here: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/18/fe ... n-to-snap/
Adam Lanza, 20, targeted Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown after killing his mother early Friday because he believed she loved the school “more than she loved him,” said Joshua Flashman, 25, who grew up not far from where the shooting took place. Flashman, a U.S. Marine, is the son of a pastor at an area church where many of the victims' families worship.

“From what I've been told, Adam was aware of her petitioning the court for conservatorship and (her) plans to have him committed," Flashman told FoxNews.com. "Adam was apparently very upset about this. He thought she just wanted to send him away. From what I understand, he was really, really angry. I think this could have been it, what set him off.”

A senior law enforcement official involved in the investigation confirmed that Lanza's anger at his mother over plans for “his future mental health treatment” is being looked at as a possible motive for the deadly shooting.

"He thought she just wanted to send him away. From what I understand, he was really, really angry."

Flashman was told Nancy Lanza had begun filing paperwork to get conservatorship over her troubled son, but that could not be confirmed because a court official told FoxNews.com such records are sealed.
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