Arguing the last gun grab

[A-R]

I know it's easy to slip into our well-rehearsed arguments, but something struck me today. They're not coming after our guns for cosmetic reasons this time. Listen to how many gun grabbers are saying "no one needs a semi-automatic weapon". They want ALL of the useful self-defense firearms, not just the cosmetic EBRs this time.

So our old arguments about the stupidity of banning one weapon with a pistol grip or collapsable stock while allowing the same weapon without those features is no longer worthwhile ... they want to ban ALL OF THEM this time.

It's time to educate the ignorant about why SEMI-automatic is vital to self defense.

Just food for thought as you argue with the ignorant masses out there.

[SQLGeek]

Yup. I said something similar in another thread. It disturbs me how many are decrying all semi-automatic rifles though I suspect many don't actually understand what they are or just how many there actually are.

I had one lib friend tell me that he doesn't want gun owners disarmed and then laid out this extensive fantasy where nobody had semi-automatics, and only had guns with a capacity of 5-6 rounds maximum and were difficult to reload. I've had other fellow gun owners say that nobody should have semi-automatic rifles. When I asked about the M1, he was in support of licensing and registration. In the next breath, he said but they better not touch CHL. The other friend of ours agreed because he only owns a shotgun, handguns and a bolt action rifle. I know who I am NOT inviting shooting any more.

I've been trying to rationally lay out the argument for semi-autos but it's hard reasoning with logic like that above. I'm losing my faith rather quickly.

[stroo]

We need to cast at least some of our arguments in terms of safety.

Depending on the study, there are between 750,000 and 2 million uses of guns per year by civilians in defence of themselves and loved ones.

There have been many instances in the last 5 years in which intended mass murderers were stopped short by people with guns.

There are numerous instances of murderer soaking up 10 plus rounds, Pretty Boyd Floyd being perhaps the most famous, and still succeeding in killing their intended victim(s).

Semi-automatic weapons with magazines of 15,20, 30 rounds provides someone who is attacked with ammo to hopefully stop even a bullet sponge but also to address multiple assailants.

So a semi-automatic weapon provides more safety to a potential victim.

[Andrew]

I call 'em Self Loading Rifles in conversations with libs. There's nothing "automatic" to get their knickers in a twist over, and usually you can have a conversation instead of a shouting match. YMMV