NFA item on Ebay?

[AEA]

Ya think it's something other than a oil filter designed to catch cleaning fluids and recycle them for multiple use?

[cheezit]

looks like a solvent catch to me... move along nothing to see here. i seen no reason to suggest to anyone it may have other uses.

[hpcatx]

Both ads appear to be for the thread adapters, not the actual suppressors, and therefore are not NFA restricted. You can purchase threaded barrels, adapters, thread protectors, etc., online (at least before the recent run on all things gun related) and the parts do not require FFL transfers.

[bizarrenormality]

For suppressing the mess caused by solvents when cleaning, I hear an oil filter is more effective than a plastic coke bottle and can be used more times.



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[SlickTX]

I only see threads on the oil filter side. The the other side looks like a slip fit over the barrel with a detent ball to hold it in place lightly. No way would that stay on on when firing.

I think it is exactly as advertised.

[OldCannon]

There are suppressors that use oil cans. My understanding is that the ATF considers the oil can a "wipe" (a replaceable part of the suppressor), thus the rest of the part is the suppressor itself.

I wouldn't buy it, and it's POSSIBLE that person can be charged with selling NFA items illegally. They might beat the rap if they have several million dollars to spend in legal fees.

There's a lot of reasons why an oil can suppressor is a bad idea, but it things went down hill in a jiffy, it's relatively easy to make (compared to a "real" suppressor.

They would be smarter if they sold it as something else....but as Forrest Gump says, "Stupid is as stupid does."

[KaiserB]

The original oil filter suppressor is definitely Class III SOT regulated http://www.americanspecialtyammo.com/Class_III.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Econo-Can Patent Pending
This is a legal and registered silencer that is patent pending. It is an adapter that uses a removable expansion chamber aka a car oil filter. In our opinion this device is as quiet as any 22lr silencer we have ever tested. The is a registered silencer and must be treated as such. The adapter is threaded 1/2-28. This is a NFA item and all NFA rules and regulations apply. We are licensed by CGW to manufacture this suppressor.
Price-$75.00 Call for orders

Buying that adapter or making your own is a really good way to get YOURSELF a felony conviction for possessing an unlicensed suppressor.


From ATF Website:

Q: What can happen to someone who has an NFA firearm which is not registered to him?
Violators may be fined not more than $250,000, and imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. In addition, any vessel, vehicle or aircraft used to transport, conceal or possess an unregistered NFA firearm is subject to seizure and forfeiture, as is the weapon itself.

[49 U.S.C. 781-788, 26 U.S.C. 5861 and 5872]

Q: What should a person do if he or she comes into possession of an unregistered NFA firearm?
Contact the nearest ATF office immediately.

[JJVP]

A suppresor adapter is not an NFA item. Google search found dozens of places that sell suppresor adapters. If an adapter was an NFA item, then a threaded barrel would also be an NFA item. The suppresor itself is the NFA item. The same as a lower being the "gun", but not the upper in an AR-15. If you buy it online, you have to get it through an FFL. Not so for an upper.

The above is my opinion only. IANAL nor stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[OldCannon]

They can claim whatever they want. When the ATF sees it, they will say it's NFA. The rest will be decided in court, LONG after all your firearms and money are gone.

[Wes]

That first one is probably fine, it's not attached to the gun so i don't see you being able to shoot it. The other fully threaded one tho, I woulnt take the chance personally. It is just like the original which is nfa. It's not nfa just because they want it to be. With the low price of a 22 can, why risk it?

[recaffeination]

That first one is probably fine, it's not attached to the gun so i don't see you being able to shoot it. The other fully threaded one tho, I woulnt take the chance personally. It is just like the original which is nfa. It's not nfa just because they want it to be. With the low price of a 22 can, why risk it?

Wouldn't the same reasons many members gave, when they said they wouldn't register their semiauto rifles and pay a $200 tax if DiFi got her way, apply to someone not registering a can?

Well except the can tax is 100-200% and DiFi's AR tax is more like 15-25%.

[Jumping Frog]

Probably a BATF'er trolling for fish. I'd love it if another BATF'er made a buy looking to hook an illegal seller. Let the two of them show up and try to arrest each other.

Clowns....

[Wes]

@Recaf - Not at all, the national firearms act has been around a long time and proven in court many times. A new rifle stamp would not be proven, so it can be challenged, if one is so inclined.

[KaiserB]

A suppresor adapter is not an NFA item. Google search found dozens of places that sell suppresor adapters. If an adapter was an NFA item, then a threaded barrel would also be an NFA item. The suppresor itself is the NFA item. The same as a lower being the "gun", but not the upper in an AR-15. If you buy it online, you have to get it through an FFL. Not so for an upper.

The above is my opinion only. IANAL nor stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Parts that can be fashioned or assembled into a silencer or suppressor are considered NFA items under current ATF rules and case law. This included fashioning a 2 liter bottle for the end of your rifle to make a poor mans silencer. Assembly of said parts or possession of parts that could be readily assembled require a Form 1 and a Tax Stamp,

You are correct in 1 point in that a booster or adapter for a suppressor is not considered an NFA controlled part in some instances, however adapter made to fit items on barrels that could be used to silence, quiet or supress the sound of gunfire are considered NFA regulated parts.

See: http://www.atf.gov/publications/downloa ... pter-2.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

NOTE: the language in the definition of silencer contains no provisions that permit an owner of a
registered silencer to possess spare or replacement components for the silencer. However, licensed
manufacturers who are SOTs may possess spare silencer components in conjunction with their
manufacturing operations.