Ilion, NY's Remington/Marlin/H & R factory: Uncertain times.

[surprise_i'm_armed]

http://www.saratogian.com/articles/2013 ... de=default

The above link is an Associated Press article that was published in multiple newspapers across the US.
The Dallas Morning News' headline for this was "Worries at the rifle factory".

The Bushmaster AR-15 is made here, but has recently been banned under NYS law.

I think they should build a nice new factory with an address which includes "TX".

SIA

[Redneck_Buddha]

http://www.saratogian.com/articles/2013 ... de=default

The above link is an Associated Press article that was published in multiple newspapers across the US.
The Dallas Morning News' headline for this was "Worries at the rifle factory".

The Bushmaster AR-15 is made here, but has recently been banned under NYS law.

I think they should build a nice new factory with an address which includes "TX".

SIA

I'd feel awful for long time employees of these plants, but I hope these manufacturers will evaluate their business presences in the gun grabbing states like IL, MA, CT, and NY. and move 'em on down here.

[jimlongley]

As a telephone man I worked in and around Ilion several times, including in the Remington factory offices. Nothing exciting there, but I did get trapped in the basement of a bank in the next town over, Herkimer, one time.

[The Annoyed Man]

http://www.saratogian.com/articles/2013 ... de=default

The above link is an Associated Press article that was published in multiple newspapers across the US.
The Dallas Morning News' headline for this was "Worries at the rifle factory".

The Bushmaster AR-15 is made here, but has recently been banned under NYS law.

I think they should build a nice new factory with an address which includes "TX".

SIA

I'd feel awful for long time employees of these plants, but I hope these manufacturers will evaluate their business presences in the gun grabbing states like IL, MA, CT, and NY. and move 'em on down here.

Yeah, I'd feel bad for them too, but.......the corporation can't afford to stay in a state where they are not welcome, and where the legalities of manufacturing their products and even trying to transport them out of state is questionable.....just to protect those jobs. It's not about vengeance. It's about economics. Imagine if Texas outlawed Tahoes and told the state's GM plants that they could no longer make them. The Tahoe is one of the company's most popular selling models. What if that GM plant were their only plant? If I were Remington, I'd move the plant, lock stock and barrel (pun intended), and the lost jobs is the price the state of NY pays for being unwise.

[CC Italian]

As someone who comes from the northeast I say come on down. This is just one more of many reasons why people are moving here from all over the country.New Jersey,California, new York and Michigan. A ton of people from these States. Please do remember why you moved down here though. I will never live in the people's republic again!

[jimlongley]

I should point out that Remington is by far the major employer in Illion, Herkimer, and Little Falls.

[i8godzilla]

The workers in those factories are also voters. They should ask their union which candidates they endorsed and whether those elected voted for or against more gun control laws.

[SF18C]

Maybe Ricky can send a message to New York too!


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God Bless TEXAS!!!

edit: I guess Abbott already did!

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[FishInTx]

I wasn't born here but got here as fast as I could! Those companies should do likewise!

[grim-bob]

Unfortunately a lot of the people who are moving here are for jobs and low taxes. Not necessarily for the freedoms we hold dear. I work with many of them and the liberal base of "outsiders" is growing steadily at my office.

While I welcome those who come here to integrate into our culture I really wish the rest would stay and sit in the mess they created for themselves.

[magicglock]

Remington is welcome here but the workers are not. Keep your unions and liberals where they belong, NY. You created this mess, now live with it.

[old farmer]

I wasn't born here but got here as fast as I could! Those companies should do likewise!

[The Annoyed Man]

The workers in those factories are also voters. They should ask their union which candidates they endorsed and whether those elected voted for or against more gun control laws.

Even so, they represent a small fraction of all of New York's voters. Although the union's answer would be relevant, it would have no impact. The only thing that can have an impact is for the factory to move out of New York, presumably to a gun friendly state, and take the jobs with it.

It's not just about political vengeance. If a Bushmaster rifle is illegal in New York, then can the company manufacture and ship them in New York with impunity? If not, then it isn't just potential New York sales that are affected. You won't be able to buy a Bushmaster AR, or a Remington R15 in Texas, because the company cannot legally be in possession of them in New York. So Remington/Bushmaster don't just lose the New York sales, they loose the Texas sales, the Oklahoma sales, the Michigan sales, heck, even the California sales, etc., etc., etc. It means that they are entirely out of the AR15/AR10 business!

THAT is what it means if the company does not move. And for that matter, I would love to see Springfield move out of Illinois; Charter and Chaparral Arms, Colt, Marlin, PTR 91, Inc., Mossberg, Ruger, Seecamp, and Stag Arms leave Connecticut; Auto-Ordinance, S&W, Savage, Kahr, NEF, Troy Industries, and Yankee Hill Machine Co., Inc. leave Massachusetts; S&W/Walther, and Bushmaster/Windham leave Maine; and ACC, Sig Arms, and Thompson Center leave New Hampshire. None of those knucklehead voters in those states deserves to have those companies added into the state's tax base.

It is merely a historical accident that all of those manufacturers are located in the northeast. It has nothing to do with lack of manufacturing capacity, or availability of raw materials, or availability of a skilled workforce in other states. Those companies were either founded in the northeast simply because that's where the first colonies were located, or they were spunoff/purchased/renamed/etc. from existing northeastern manufacturers. That's the only reason they are all located there. As it happens those states are overwhelmingly hostile to the products those companies make, and the vast majority of their products are sold out of state in places where gun-ownership is not regarded as anathema. They should all relocate to those parts of the nation where A) their manufacturing costs will go down, B) their taxes will go down, and C) statewide support for their existence and profitability will go up. Nothing else makes any sense at all. It really doesn't matter if New York State gives Remington huge tax breaks to stay there, if their profitability suffers.