DIY NFA Trusts

[alvins]

Pay a lawyer $500 now, versus pay him $50,000 later?

Isn't that the same argument made by these guys? http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=37925" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If people want to pay for peace of mind, that's fine. I enjoy reading the laws and figuring out how to stay legal more so than paying other people to do the same thing for me. Also, if you're a law-abiding person and you are moderately discrete (take your suppressors to the range, keep them bagged and locked up at other times), then you're probably fine, but if you like to live on the edge, brag about your suppressors, conceal carry with them, etc, then you probably want a lawyer to make sure you're 100%.

conceal carry a suppressor?

the fact is going to the gun range is going to give you attention.i am up to 3 supressors and I can tell you when I goto the range I have atleast one person come up to me and ask about it.I have also been to a gun range here in Houston that called hpd on me because he didn't think my paperwork was legit.this isn't something you mess around with and hope no one notices what you have.someone will challenge the legality of it at some point.

[JALLEN]

Many years ago when I was young and foolish, I came home one night to find my then wife in a tizzy. The commode was stopped up. No big deal! I sized up the situation and headed off to the local equivalent in that day of Home Depot, purchased the tools and various potions that seemed to be required and came home. I turned off the water to the house and set to work.

About 10 pm, with the bathroom fixtures all completely disassembled, most of the bathroom covered with a thick film of smelly black "stuff," my wife wanted to have the kids brush their teeth, go potty and go to bed, obviously impossible at the time.

A couple of lessons here. Plumbing is more complicated than it seemed. Plumbers are real expensive at midnight. I've reflected on that experience long and often, and combined with a few other experiences, both personal and vicarious over the years, concluded that nothing beats knowing what you are doing.

I didn't play a lawyer on TV. I am one, for awhile longer.

[mrvmax]

Yep, not sure I would go the cheap route when it can result in so much trouble. Why not just pay an attorney? I work on my cars but there is a limit to what I can do, sometimes I have to take it to the experts. If you are going to invest in a suppressor then why not just get a trust set up properly to protect the investment?

[Hoosier Daddy]

Yep, not sure I would go the cheap route when it can result in so much trouble. Why not just pay an attorney? I work on my cars but there is a limit to what I can do, sometimes I have to take it to the experts. If you are going to invest in a suppressor then why not just get a trust set up properly to protect the investment?

If you're going to pay for a professional, you should research what percentage of their special NFA trusts held up to ATF scrutiny compared to generic trusts, so you can make an educated decision. If there's a problem, it's not the lawyer's door and kittens ATF will stomp.

[mrvmax]

Yep, not sure I would go the cheap route when it can result in so much trouble. Why not just pay an attorney? I work on my cars but there is a limit to what I can do, sometimes I have to take it to the experts. If you are going to invest in a suppressor then why not just get a trust set up properly to protect the investment?

If you're going to pay for a professional, you should research what percentage of their special NFA trusts held up to ATF scrutiny compared to generic trusts, so you can make an educated decision. If there's a problem, it's not the lawyer's door and kittens ATF will stomp.

Why don't you enlighten us as to what problems you are referring to when lawyers form the trusts? List all the times the ATF has come after an NFA trust set up by an attorney. I would like to know as I am sure others here would. The only problems I have heard about was with the DIY trusts.

[The Annoyed Man]

Yep, not sure I would go the cheap route when it can result in so much trouble. Why not just pay an attorney? I work on my cars but there is a limit to what I can do, sometimes I have to take it to the experts. If you are going to invest in a suppressor then why not just get a trust set up properly to protect the investment?

If you're going to pay for a professional, you should research what percentage of their special NFA trusts held up to ATF scrutiny compared to generic trusts, so you can make an educated decision. If there's a problem, it's not the lawyer's door and kittens ATF will stomp.

True, true. OTH, part of what you're getting with a paid professional is some kind of implied warranty of their work and some support if things do go wrong. It's like if you have a CPA prepare your taxes, he or she will also appear with you at your IRS audit.....if you're a conservative. If you're a liberal there won't be an audit, but I digress....

[APynckel]

They really need to deregulate suppressors and allow registry of full auto's again.

[OldGrumpy]

One of the keys of success is knowing your own limitations. I quit trying to repair plumbing(at my wife's insistence) because I am lousy at it. What is the value of $300 -$400 saved versus the peace of mind of knowing that something was done correctly and by a professional.

[bizarrenormality]

One of the keys of success is knowing your own limitations. I quit trying to repair plumbing(at my wife's insistence) because I am lousy at it. What is the value of $300 -$400 saved versus the peace of mind of knowing that something was done correctly and by a professional.

I don't mind somebody paying a plumber because they're not comfortable or competent to do it themselves but they go overboard when they suggest no layman is competent to DIY.