Just a thought I had this morning. I see a lot of threads on here asking about the legality and/or enforceability of various no-weapons signs including 30.05, Ghostbusters, "No Weapons Allowed", etc.
I'm not a legal expert, a lawyer or an LEO, but the law as written and covered in all our CHL classes is that the only legally enforceable signs that can keep us from carrying are the 30.06 (that meets ALL of the standards) and the 51% (as long as the business is actually a 51% location), and potentially a Federal Building Notice. Any other sign does not apply to you if you possess a CHL.
Of course this forum is a great place to come when you have questions, so I'm not bashing anyone for asking. Better to ask than get into legal trouble! All I'm saying is that if you go back and read the CHL handbook and the CHL law as it's written, it's pretty clear where and when you can carry and when you can't (at least as far as posted signs go).
Any thoughts?
Legal signs and the CHL handbook...
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Well, the CHL booklets were printed at some point in time, and the law does change. Not everyone knows how to search the Texas statutes (now you do 
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Part of the problem is the proliferation of signs saying, "Persuant to blah, blah, blah [nonexistent or obsolete law] ..."
If people searched before asking, they would see that these issues have been discussed many time, but not everyone thinks of that.
- Jim
).Part of the problem is the proliferation of signs saying, "Persuant to blah, blah, blah [nonexistent or obsolete law] ..."
If people searched before asking, they would see that these issues have been discussed many time, but not everyone thinks of that.
- Jim
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IMHO, where the issue is all muddied up is when folks try to pick the statute apart. It says one inch letters, contrasting colors, etc.seamusTX wrote:Well, the CHL booklets were printed at some point in time, and the law does change. Not everyone knows how to search the Texas statutes (now you do
Part of the problem is the proliferation of signs saying, "Persuant to blah, blah, blah [nonexistent or obsolete law] ..."
If people searched before asking, they would see that these issues have been discussed many time, but not everyone thinks of that.
- Jim
I am really annoyed when I hear "I believe their intent was to keep CHL out, but even though the letters are 1/4 inch I will stay out. I don't want to be the test case. Blah Blah Blah"
There are a few ambiguities and cloudy areas in Texas handgun and self defense laws, but I don't think a lot of it is in posting.
The only questionable postings I have seen are white letters on clear glass. It was quite legible, one inch, correct words, spanish and english.
If you see a sign, isn't 30.06 compliant, carry and stay concealed.
I really wish people would keep quiet about non-compliant 30.06 postings. If folks want to harass folks, do it to the ones that are fully compliant and therefore gun free killing fields.
Anygun
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