Business Responsibility Regarding Active Shooter Training.
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Business Responsibility Regarding Active Shooter Training.
An article in today's Baltimore Sun makes some good points about a business' responsibility to its employees regarding training for responses that support survival during an active shooter event.
Excaliber
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Re: Business Responsibility Regarding Active Shooter Trainin
In your experience, what percentage of businesses agree with the information enough to take action regarding it?Excaliber wrote:An article in today's Baltimore Sun makes some good points about a business' responsibility to its employees regarding training for responses that support survival during an active shooter event.
Does scheduling this kind of training open a business up to a greater potential for a lawsuit? Ignoring threats seems to attract less scrutiny than addressing them and having someone, after the fact, decide that the preparations were inadequate if the threat does occur.
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Re: Business Responsibility Regarding Active Shooter Trainin
A few years ago most businesses didn't want to even think about it. The ostrich was their idol.chasfm11 wrote:In your experience, what percentage of businesses agree with the information enough to take action regarding it?Excaliber wrote:An article in today's Baltimore Sun makes some good points about a business' responsibility to its employees regarding training for responses that support survival during an active shooter event.
Does scheduling this kind of training open a business up to a greater potential for a lawsuit? Ignoring threats seems to attract less scrutiny than addressing them and having someone, after the fact, decide that the preparations were inadequate if the threat does occur.
The problem is getting harder to ignore, and they're hearing more from their employees who know that having no plan or one that's been proven not to work isn't going to keep them safe and it's having an effect on morale.
I'm seeing more willingness to look at the issue today than I have ever seen in the past.
I'm not an attorney, but it seems to me that making an effort to mitigate the risk, particularly if it's done with guidance and training from true experts in the field, is defensible and a much better protection in a liability suit than doing nothing at all about a widely recognized risk.
Excaliber
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Re: Business Responsibility Regarding Active Shooter Trainin
I would like to see this as yearly training for educators with the scenario changing every year.
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Re: Business Responsibility Regarding Active Shooter Trainin
Why not tell the employees to shut their doors and hide behind a desk? After all, it's good enough for their kids at school.
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Re: Business Responsibility Regarding Active Shooter Trainin
When I do active shooter response training, I ask the attendees what their procedures tell them to do, and other things they've heard are good tactics. Then I have them execute them one by one with a "bad guy" shooting them with water guns or throwing ping pong balls at exposed parts if he can. I then ask them how that worked out for them.jmra wrote:Why not tell the employees to shut their doors and hide behind a desk? After all, it's good enough for their kids at school.
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There are a lot of red faces. It creates a good foundation for some productive conversations.
Excaliber
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"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." - Jeff Cooper
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Re: Business Responsibility Regarding Active Shooter Trainin
jmra wrote:Why not tell the employees to shut their doors and hide behind a desk? After all, it's good enough for their kids at school.
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You have a stapler and pencils. What else could you need to protect yourself and our children?
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A small crossbow that would launch the pencil with some accuracy would be nice.mojo84 wrote:jmra wrote:Why not tell the employees to shut their doors and hide behind a desk? After all, it's good enough for their kids at school.
(Sarcasm - if it isn't obvious to someone)
You have a stapler and pencils. What else could you need to protect yourself and our children?

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Re: Business Responsibility Regarding Active Shooter Trainin
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