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mojo84 wrote:Many would be very surprised the percentage of the athletics budgets come from the school district budgets. About 65-70% of ours comes from our booster club and fundraising by the teams. Obviously, I'm not talking about capital projects that are paid for by bonds. A large portion of the remaining funds comes from gate and concession receipts

If one doesn't like what is being done through bonds, you have a say in that.
I also had a voice in the new high school being built in our town. A voice that was shut out by those who stood to make money and those who would never contribute a dime to pay back the bond. As long as people who do not own property are allowed to vote on such matters it will become more difficult to stop them.
BTW, the sole purpose of the new school is to bring the athletic program back down to 4A.
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Then the problem is with your local school board and the people with a vested interest in getting it built. I recommend you contact a new consulting company called Local Voice Solutions in Austin. They help local people fight unnecessary bond elections. They can help multiply the voices of reason and fight waste.


The other side of adding a school to stay in a lower classification is so more students have the opportunity to participate and be competitive.
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mojo84 wrote:The other side of adding a school to stay in a lower classification is so more students have the opportunity to participate and be competitive.
This is really a non-issue. With JV and Varsity teams and other intra-district programs every kid has the opportunity to participate. If overcrowding were truly the issue the answer would be to surrender territory to smaller districts. We have kids that are being transported 15 miles to our schools when they live less than 5 miles from another districts high school. It's time to put the welfare of the kids ahead of the huge money greedy districts are trying to get their hands on.
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I know for a fact it was a major reason we ended up with two schools. You have to remember politics plays a huge role in bond elections. The tax paying voters approved it, they must have wanted it. Giving up district area and students to another district is not an option I see very often if ever.

I encourage to get involved by calling the folks I mentioned and taking a stand against wasteful spending. I also encourage everyone to put pressure on their school boards to stop scheduling bond votes off cycle. Have then at the same time as other elections.
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mojo84 wrote:The tax paying voters approved it, they must have wanted it.
If it were only "tax paying voters" voting then I would agree. However, that simply isn't the case. Using your logic, the tax paying voters must have wanted Obama in the White House
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Reminds me of one of Thomas Sowell's Random Thoughts.
"It is fascinating to see academics full of indignation over the "exploitation" of low-wage workers by multinational corporations in Third World countries, when it is common on their own academic campuses to have young men get paid nothing at all for risking their health, and sometimes their lives, playing football that brings in millions of dollars to the college and often gets coaches paid higher salaries than the president of the college or university."
Applies to high school as well.
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jmra wrote:
mojo84 wrote:The tax paying voters approved it, they must have wanted it.
If it were only "tax paying voters" voting then I would agree. However, that simply isn't the case. Using your logic, the tax paying voters must have wanted Obama in the White House

I guess I should have said citizens or people of the community. None the less, it was voted on and passed. Not going to get into splitting hairs about property owners vs. renters pays property taxes.
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Jaguar wrote:Applies to high school as well.
It applies to all unpaid work but nobody is forcing them to volunteer.

Has the entitlement mentality really gone so haywire?
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College scholarship athletes are compensated with a scholarship for an education.
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I think the last few posts support my theory that many colleges have become businesses and that their primary focus is not education.
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mojo84 wrote:
jmra wrote:
mojo84 wrote:The tax paying voters approved it, they must have wanted it.
If it were only "tax paying voters" voting then I would agree. However, that simply isn't the case. Using your logic, the tax paying voters must have wanted Obama in the White House

I guess I should have said citizens or people of the community. None the less, it was voted on and passed. Not going to get into splitting hairs about property owners vs. renters pays property taxes.
I believe it is a significant point especially when factoring in section eight housing recipients and the fact that most renters have no concept of how bonds might affect their "rent".
Without these voters many of these bonds would not pass. It is exactly the same issue (non-contributors deciding issues for contributors) that got Obama elected twice.

But putting that aside, decisions affecting our communities and our students are being made with athletics taking priority over academics. This is one of the reasons our academics are crumbling around us. We'd rather spend money on stadiums than books and academic resources.
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WildBill wrote:I think the last few posts support my theory that many colleges have become businesses and that their primary focus is not education.
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I agree most colleges have.

Glad there are alternatives being developed. Hopefully they will put pressure on the traditional institutions to get things in check.
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The point remains. If they don't like the deal, nobody is forcing them to take it.

Unlike those of us who pay school taxes and have to pay whether or not we think it's a good deal.
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FML wrote:I'm disappointed but not surprised how many people are in favor of handouts when the money would go into their pockets. I'm not surprised because it's the main reason why Texas is $269 Billion in debt and the federal government is $17 Trillion in debt. I think we're past the point of safe return.

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I agree in the general context. The sheep will vote the person into office that panders to the benefits that mean the most to them as long as they don't have to pay more for those benefits.

In the context of education, however, even if you don't have kids, you've likely received a public education yourself. Part of that education was funded by taxpayers that didn't have kids. Someone else paid for your education. Now you're helping to pay for someone else.
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