Nevada Rancher Standoff

[VMI77]

The machine never stops.

All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War

One man, among the self-described militia, says at least two federal agents went undercover to gather information and are preparing to make arrests. This latest information is causing increased tensions among those who say their goal is to protect rancher Cliven Bundy. Around 50 people remain at the ranch, many living in tents, and are prepared to stay for weeks, even months. The men say they took an oath to protect, but they are worried there is a rat in the ranks

"When you pledge your life and your fortune, you're prepared to give it up," said Bobby Bridgewater, an Oath Keeper.

An atmosphere of uncertainty now surrounds the Bundy ranch. The so-called security guards aren't sure, but they believe it's possible federal agents are among them, posing as militia.

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25313504/ ... undy-ranch

There's no doubt about it. EVERY militia and patriot group that's on the radar has been infiltrated by the Feds. EVERY ONE OF THEM.

[Cedar Park Dad]

While chances you are correct are high, that sounds a might paranoid, especially the all caps part.

[howdy]

This is not going to help his cause:

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politic ... ace-n88556" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Cedar Park Dad]

Yep that will do it.

[Jim Beaux]

While chances you are correct are high, that sounds a might paranoid, especially the all caps part.

Big difference between stating facts and being paranoid.

[mojo84]

It's a shame he continued talking until he said something stupid.

[mamabearCali]

Yep that was rather stupid to say. His stupidity does not negate the BLM's power hungry brutality.

[mojo84]

Yep that was rather stupid to say. His stupidity does not negate the BLM's power hungry brutality.

Not at all. Two completely separate issues.

[mamabearCali]

Yep that was rather stupid to say. His stupidity does not negate the BLM's power hungry brutality.

Not at all. Two completely separate issues.

I imagine he is rather like my grandpa and speaks his mind without a PR filter on his mouth.

[Dragonfighter]

While chances you are correct are high, that sounds a might paranoid, especially the all caps part.

Big difference between stating facts and being paranoid.

If someone IS out to get you, then "paranoid" is just good thinking.

[jmra]

I do not agree with the mans words but I do believe that many who rely on the government for their very existence have allowed themselves to become pawns (more PC than slaves) of the hand that feeds them.

[anygunanywhere]

Even those with oppposing views deserve protection from a tyrannical government. Politically correct speech is as much an evil as any other that plagues our country. I would much rather know exactly how a person thinks than try to see through a smoke screen.

Anygunanywhere

[anygunanywhere]

In case you do not trust the NYT:

HOAX EXPOSED: Full Clip Of Cliven Bundy’s Non-Racist, Pro-Black, Pro-Mexican, Anti-Government Remarks Vs. NYTimes’ Deceptively Edited Version


http://patdollard.com/2014/04/shock-hoa ... n-advocat/

Anygunanywhere

[VMI77]

In case you do not trust the NYT:

HOAX EXPOSED: Full Clip Of Cliven Bundy’s Non-Racist, Pro-Black, Pro-Mexican, Anti-Government Remarks Vs. NYTimes’ Deceptively Edited Version


http://patdollard.com/2014/04/shock-hoa ... n-advocat/

Anygunanywhere

As I'm sure you well know we ceased having a news media decades ago. Under the Obamanation they've merely discarded even the pretense of news dissemination and objectivity. The old media is now nothing more than a mouthpiece for the ruling oligarchy and an advertising agency for the entertainment industry. To some extent it has probably always been this way but I still remember a time when there was some adversarial journalism. Journalism is dead now, except on independent internet sites and among the four or five real journalists still attempting to inform the American people, but whom are mostly shutoff from any mainstream news channel or publication. Anyone who stands for Constitutional government, or anyone who breeches the politically correct limits on speech and is not a member of a protected class or the ruling oligarchy is going to be attacked, smeared, and marginalized, if not destroyed.

[VMI77]

While chances you are correct are high, that sounds a might paranoid, especially the all caps part.

I'm cautious, not paranoid. In this case I don't have to even be cautious because I don't belong to any group that the government would care to scrutinize --well, except maybe the NRA. I'll put it another way.....anyone in any organized group like a militia, or a political group that advocates Constitutional government, or a group that is opposed to government overreach, should consider that group compromised, because it almost certainly is. The larger the group the greater the likelihood that it is already infiltrated. Now there may be a very small chance that a particular group is not already infiltrated, but the smart thing is to move forward assuming it is. If the Feds ever come to believe that any kind of uprising is imminent their first move will be to take a bunch of these groups down.