Pepper Spray Attacks

anygunanywhere · Post by **anygunanywhere** » Tue May 01, 2007 11:04 am

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?secti ... id=5261115

(5/01/07 - WACO, TX) - Police are looking for the teenagers behind two attacks on Baylor University students in which the victims' eyes were doused with pepper spray.

Of course, the victims were unarmed. Two BGs, pepper spray, random attacks.

Gun/weapon free zone. Is pepper spray banned from college campuses?

Anygun

stevie_d_64 · Post by **stevie_d_64** » Tue May 01, 2007 1:53 pm

Ok, this is information I was looking for...

It appears to be "random"??? Journalist...What do you expect...Right???

So for the most part they would just spray the "victims"...Bu tone said they got "punched" as well...

Obviously that aggravates the situation, but does it "aggravate" a crime???

Just looking to spark up the discussion again...

I just want to see where the crime is here, and yet we know there could very well be follow up acts made upon a person who commits this act of spraying...

Got to go back and look at the other discussion because somebody posted the "code" this applies to...

seamusTX · Post by **seamusTX** » Tue May 01, 2007 2:09 pm

Spraying someone with pepper spray is assault, at a minimum:

PC Â§ 22.01. ASSAULT. (a) A person commits an offense if the person:
(1) intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly causes bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse;
(2) intentionally or knowingly threatens another with imminent bodily injury, including the person's spouse; or
(3) intentionally or knowingly causes physical contact with another when the person knows or should reasonably believe that the other will regard the contact as offensive or provocative.

Aggravated assault requires actual injury or the use of a deadly weapon.

- Jim

txinvestigator · Post by **txinvestigator** » Tue May 01, 2007 3:58 pm

seamusTX wrote:Spraying someone with pepper spray is assault, at a minimum:
PC Â§ 22.01. ASSAULT. (a) A person commits an offense if the person:
(1) intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly causes bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse;
(2) intentionally or knowingly threatens another with imminent bodily injury, including the person's spouse; or
(3) intentionally or knowingly causes physical contact with another when the person knows or should reasonably believe that the other will regard the contact as offensive or provocative.
Aggravated assault requires actual injury or the use of a deadly weapon.

- Jim

Actually aggravated assault requires "Serious Bodily Injury" or the exhibition or use of a deadly weapon.

Assault already covers "actual injury" (see red in your quote)

NguyenVanDon · Post by **NguyenVanDon** » Tue May 01, 2007 5:11 pm

Since I'm a college student and I can't carry inside the school, I'm usually carrying my police magnum oc-17% pepper spray and my folding knife. It's better than nothing...

anygunanywhere · Post by **anygunanywhere** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:49 pm

NguyenVanDon wrote:Since I'm a college student and I can't carry inside the school, I'm usually carrying my police magnum oc-17% pepper spray and my folding knife. It's better than nothing...

Are you violating school policy?

NguyenVanDon · Post by **NguyenVanDon** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:54 pm

Been doing it for 2 years now. Past by the Campus Police Department everyday and they have never said a word to me.

Will938 · Post by **Will938** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:35 am

anygunanywhere wrote:
NguyenVanDon wrote:Since I'm a college student and I can't carry inside the school, I'm usually carrying my police magnum oc-17% pepper spray and my folding knife. It's better than nothing...
Are you violating school policy?

My school allows "legal" knives, so 5.5" and I carry one. Last semester when I checked they prohibited pepper spray. So it was against campus rules and I could get into trouble with them, but there was nothing illegal about it. I looked for the rules on pepper spray again and I couldn't find anything, maybe they're cool with it now, I dunno.

jbirdswife · Post by **jbirdswife** » Thu May 03, 2007 10:14 pm

anygunanywhere wrote:
NguyenVanDon wrote:Since I'm a college student and I can't carry inside the school, I'm usually carrying my police magnum oc-17% pepper spray and my folding knife. It's better than nothing...
Are you violating school policy?

I am also currently a graduate student at the University of Houston Clear Lake and always have my Fox Spray in hand when walking through the parking lot. This is what I was able to find in our Student Life Policy online.

From Student Life Policy â€“ Workplace Violence Section
2.5 Dangerous weapons - for purposes of this policy, "dangerous weapons" means: any item commonly used as, or primarily intended for use as, a weapon; including but not limited to a firearm, knife, club, or other prohibited weapon as defined by V.T.C.A., Penal Code Section 46.05; or any object that has been modified to endanger or has been employed to endanger a person or property.

I then did an internet search of V.T.C.A. Penal Code Section 46.05, and was directed to the link to below -
http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/do ... 046.00.htm

(14) "Chemical dispensing device" means a device, other than a small chemical dispenser sold commercially for personal protection, that is designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of dispensing a substance capable of causing an adverse psychological or physiological effect on a human being.

At least in my case, at UHCL it appears to be legal for me to carry it.

Kimberly

SC1903A3 · Post by **SC1903A3** » Fri May 04, 2007 9:28 am

The University of Dallas (Private Catholic in Irving, Tx) does nor prohibit pepper spray.

AR Traveler · Post by **AR Traveler** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:41 am

jbirdswife wrote:Since
I then did an internet search of V.T.C.A. Penal Code Section 46.05, and was directed to the link to below -
http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/do ... 046.00.htm

(14) "Chemical dispensing device" means a device, other than a small chemical dispenser sold commercially for personal protection, that is designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of dispensing a substance capable of causing an adverse psychological or physiological effect on a human being.

At least in my case, at UHCL it appears to be legal for me to carry it.

Kimberly

FYI,
I was in the REI in downtown Austin last night getting ready for a Colorado trip and notice they had "Chemical dispensing devices" in the form of the large bear spray cannisters. Just thought is was interesting that guy in dreadlocks might be selling illegal weapons

HEMIzygote · Post by **HEMIzygote** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:08 pm

Texas Tech University allows both pepper spray and knifes.

AV8R · Post by **AV8R** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:12 pm

Our daughter is a sophomore at UNT, living in a dormitory. She carries Fox on her key ring openly, and has never received a comment from staff or other students. As far as I can tell, the campus police are pro-student safety.

Will938 · Post by **Will938** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:54 pm

HEMIzygote wrote:Texas Tech University allows both pepper spray and knifes.

Well yeah, you need it there

So then, when they say "force, but not deadly force" OC would fall under that along with joint locks and strikes to non-vital areas correct?