Good thing or bad? I'm not quite sure what I think. On one hand, if it helps vets that have PTSD, good. However, if it is just another way to put us on a list to further strip us of our rights, which is what my gut says, then it's bad.
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Campaign to urge doctors to ask about veteran status
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Campaign to urge doctors to ask about veteran status
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Re: Campaign to urge doctors to ask about veteran status
my family doc knows i am insane...
all others its a no answer on details that i dont feel are pertinent to visit
one of my va docs asked once about firearms in my home....standard answer should be ...why and how does that relate to current treatment.

all others its a no answer on details that i dont feel are pertinent to visit
one of my va docs asked once about firearms in my home....standard answer should be ...why and how does that relate to current treatment.
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Re: Campaign to urge doctors to ask about veteran status
It comes from the AMA by way of the psychobabblers, so at best, it's a recruiting tool for the head shrinkers. Their goal is to label everyone as crazy to increase their business and their control. Psychiatry, for the most part, is a fraud and a money making scam, as is the much touted DSM. This is what the psychobabblers admit to themselves:C-dub wrote:Good thing or bad? I'm not quite sure what I think. On one hand, if it helps vets that have PTSD, good. However, if it is just another way to put us on a list to further strip us of our rights, which is what my gut says, then it's bad.
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So, essentially, a bunch of self-interested people who get paid by labeling people as mentally ill have arrogated their opinions to a "science." Are there mentally ill people? No doubt. There is also no evidence that the psychobabblers can diagnose and successfully treat them, and plenty of evidence that psychotropic drugs used in treatment produce many very harmful results for both individuals and society as a whole. There is also no objective evidence to indicate that the treated individuals are better off (except perhaps in the short-term) or that such treatment is a net benefit to them or to society.On April 29, 2013, at the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) website, Director Thomas Insel, the highest ranking federal mental-health official in the US, published a blog commentary: "Transforming Diagnosis." Insel wrote:
"In a few weeks, the American Psychiatric Association will release its new edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5)...
"The strength of each of the editions of DSM has been 'reliability' - each edition has ensured that clinicians use the same terms in the same ways. The weakness is its lack of validity. Unlike our definitions of ischemic heart disease, lymphoma, or AIDS, the DSM diagnoses are based on a consensus about clusters of clinical symptoms, not any objective laboratory measure."
If some doctor asks if you're a veteran I think the smart play is to keep your mouth shut --unless you're not particularly concerned about retaining your right to self-defense or any of the other things you may lose after being labeled by a psychobabbler.
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Re: Campaign to urge doctors to ask about veteran status
I was handed a form the last time I visited my GP. The practice has several doctors and I was unable to see my regular physician. The nurse for the "new" doctor gave me a yellow form and said I had to fill it out. I queried her as to it's purpose and she said it was the law. On one side it asked about falling issues, but the other side dealt specifically with depression in a series of probing questions. I didn't fill it out and put the clip board with the form behind a garbage can in examination room. I don't know if she was correct in her statement that the law requires it or not.
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Re: Campaign to urge doctors to ask about veteran status
puma guy wrote:I didn't fill it out and put the clip board with the form behind a garbage can in examination room.

I have to remember that move.
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Re: Campaign to urge doctors to ask about veteran status
It's not just PTSD though. Military people may be entitled to care or benefits that they don't know about. My MIL at age 90 just received a check for benefits from disability claims from her deceased husband going back almost 30 years ago. A lot of good it does at age 90. Not that I would use the VA for my care but if I were entitled to a check I would take it.
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Re: Campaign to urge doctors to ask about veteran status
I retired from the Army with 70% disability. Tricare is my primary health insurance. My doctor already knows.
In addition to more easily diagnosed injuries, veterns can suffer Traumatic Brain Injury. I fired cannons for 34 year. Got me some TBI.
In addition to more easily diagnosed injuries, veterns can suffer Traumatic Brain Injury. I fired cannons for 34 year. Got me some TBI.
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