ISIS camp discovered near El Paso

[baldeagle]

Decide for yourself if it's true or not.

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ISIS in Mexico? Feds DENY watchdog group's claim that the terror group is operating in Juarez and plans 'imminent' car-bomb attacks on US targets
Fort Bliss raises security as Sept. 11 approaches, ISIS developments raise concern
EXCLUSIVE: BREITBART TEXAS VERIFIES ISIS BORDER THREAT WITH LEAKED DOC
Report: ISIS in Ciudad Juarez, plans to attack with car bombs

[mojo84]

Looks like the Judicial Watch got scooped!

Something called The Inquisitr published an article similar to this back on Sept. 10, 2014.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1465830/isis-t ... riff-says/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think this has been an ongoing issue for some time now.

Yes, it seems that way.

Sorry, I didn't finish by posting this link.http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/ ... st-attack/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not sure who was first since JW was on 9/4 and the other I saw was on 9/10.

[suthdj]

Ok, So ISIS is here or not, the bigger question is what are we (by we I mean you) going to do about it.
1. We can all write a letter to our reps so we can get a blow off letter back thanking us and asking for donations and nothing more happens.
2. We can take up arms TRY and find them by (them I mean ISIS not Muslims in general) and remove them from our country/earth. Someday maybe, but not very likely going to happen.
3. Fill in your own idea's.

[TVGuy]

There may be one group more ruthless and barbaric than ISIS currently on this planet, Mexican cartels. Do you really think if ISIS was anywhere near Juarez that they wouldn't all be slaughtered already?

If they've been there since the middle of last year or earlier, the cartels would have slaughtered them to prevent increased scrutiny from the U.S. military in that area effectively shutting down their entire drug trafficking business.

[mojo84]

There may be one group more ruthless and barbaric than ISIS currently on this planet, Mexican cartels. Do you really think if ISIS was anywhere near Juarez that they wouldn't all be slaughtered already?

If they've been there since the middle of last year or earlier, the cartels would have slaughtered them to prevent increased scrutiny from the U.S. military in that area effectively shutting down their entire drug trafficking business.

Lots of speculation and supposition in this post.

[baldeagle]

There may be one group more ruthless and barbaric than ISIS currently on this planet, Mexican cartels. Do you really think if ISIS was anywhere near Juarez that they wouldn't all be slaughtered already?

If they've been there since the middle of last year or earlier, the cartels would have slaughtered them to prevent increased scrutiny from the U.S. military in that area effectively shutting down their entire drug trafficking business.

Good grief you have an active imagination.

Try this: a bunch of middle easterners with access to a ton of cash and weapons approach a cartel. They tell them they are willing to pay in cash and weapons for safe passage to the US on the condition that none of their members are harmed in the process. Payment to be deposited in their bank account in two installments; a good faith deposit and the balance to be deposited after all members have reported in from the US. Weapons to be smuggled in, at an agreed upon value, after completion. Future payments for future groups to be deposited in a similar fashion after successful completion of the test phase.

Still think the cartel would kill them?

BTW, do you have any credible evidence that the US military, in any form, operates in Mexico?

[The Wall]

This couldn't possibly be true. Obama says our borders are safe and ISIS is on the run. If it is true he will be sure to give them amnesty.

[C-dub]

Get a couple MOABs ready.

[CoffeeNut]

Can't take anything from Judicial Watch seriously...

Ummm...kind of like the lamestream media.

Judicial Watch is worse than Huffington Post.

Why? (Honest question ... I found this link via a different content provider and know little about Judicial Watch)

Because they post things like this and it is fear mongering at best. No other media source, even Conservative ones, had any "federal government" sources or otherwise confirming what Judicial Watch was saying was fact. There were piles of "sources" saying exactly the opposite though. When the president of Judicial Watch was asked about this article he refused to go into any more detail than what was provided in the article and while I don't trust the government some do - 'We asked Homeland Security about the threat in Juarez, and they said, "There is no credible intelligence to suggest that there is an active plot by (ISIS) to attempt to cross the southern border."'

No media organization out there has actual sources or journalists with sources confirming that ISIS is poised to strike us from Mexico. We keep hearing about Korans and turbans being found out in the desert but I don't remember the 19 hijackers being dumb enough to draw that kind of attention to themselves. When these claims are drilled down on it eventually loops around to people who have a stake in getting more money to patrol the border. Even the Fox News videos and MSNBC link posted have no sources other than Judicial Watch for these claims. When people go to print with things that cannot be confirmed it makes it a tabloid and I refuse to acknowledge them as a legitimate source. Ratings dominate the news and nothing gets people ramped up like the possibility of another terrorist attack especially if it happens on Obama's watch.

It is the same situation with the current link in the OP.

I realize some here do not agree with my stance on this but that's great. We're free to read what we want and interpret what we want from it all.

[TVGuy]

I am surprised at the comments toward Judicial Watch as I see their work occasionally and it seems like they do good work. think it was Judicial Watch that broke the Benghazi and private email server story open with their FOIA requests.

They have broken numerous stories wide open with their FOIA requests. They play no favorites, having filed FOIA requests against both Republicans and Democrats. I have no idea why people would think their information is crap, but I seriously doubt that it is.

Yes, and their founder has instigated numerous frivolous (read insane) lawsuits over the years. You are right, it is non-partisan, but still overreaching. Are they wrong 100% of the time? No, but a broken watch is also right twice a day.

Same guy that sued Obama for knowingly allowing Ebola to enter the country to kill whites and Jews. He's a bit out there.

That's a hilarious misrepresentation of what they do. Judicial Watch has broken the IRS Lerner email scandal, the Hillary Clinton email scandal, the Fast and Furious scandal, and that's just in the present administration. That "broken watch" seems to be working pretty well. You may not like what they do, you may even think it's silly, but they, more frequently than some care to admit, uncover coverups in Washington (on both sides of the aisle) that politicians prefer would stay covered up.

Note that I have no idea whether or not the story the OP posted is true or not, but to call Judicial Watch a broken watch is laughable.

You might want to fact check who actually originally broke some of the stories you've attributed to JW.

Additionally, don't you think it's a little odd that ISIS is about to take over the southern border and a huge military base and the only source quoted in any story is JW. JW has had this since August or so and won't elaborate? Come on.

My imagination is out of control?

[baldeagle]

You might want to fact check who actually originally broke some of the stories you've attributed to JW.

Really? Who uncovered the IRS emails? Who uncovered the documents related to Fast and Furious? It sure wasn't Congress, and it certainly wasn't the corrupt media.

Additionally, don't you think it's a little odd that ISIS is about to take over the southern border and a huge military base and the only source quoted in any story is JW. JW has had this since August or so and won't elaborate? Come on.

No more odd that the many other events in history that have been scoffed at by experts. And your description of what JW reported is again distorted and false. All they reported was that there was a training base in Mexico. You turn it into taking over the southern border and a huge military base. The likelihood is that ISIS will do what they've done everywhere else; bombings, shootings and beheadings. They couldn't take over Ft. Bliss if they wanted to, but they could certainly kill a few soldiers. Look what happened at Ft. Hood. You do realize that very few people at an Army base are actually armed, right?

Scoffing at the notion that ISIS is planning to strike in the US (for some definition of strike) is an ostrich approach to world events.

[TVGuy]

You might want to fact check who actually originally broke some of the stories you've attributed to JW.

Really? Who uncovered the IRS emails? Who uncovered the documents related to Fast and Furious? It sure wasn't Congress, and it certainly wasn't the corrupt media.

Additionally, it wasn't Judicial Watch. I'm also sorry you feel that way about real media. Are all organizations perfect? No, but most of us do our best though.

Additionally, don't you think it's a little odd that ISIS is about to take over the southern border and a huge military base and the only source quoted in any story is JW. JW has had this since August or so and won't elaborate? Come on.

No more odd that the many other events in history that have been scoffed at by experts. And your description of what JW reported is again distorted and false. All they reported was that there was a training base in Mexico. You turn it into taking over the southern border and a huge military base. The likelihood is that ISIS will do what they've done everywhere else; bombings, shootings and beheadings. They couldn't take over Ft. Bliss if they wanted to, but they could certainly kill a few soldiers. Look what happened at Ft. Hood. You do realize that very few people at an Army base are actually armed, right?

You think a training base in Mexico would not be easily discovered by civilians, military, satellite, binoculars if it were known to be there for nearly a year?

Scoffing at the notion that ISIS is planning to strike in the US (for some definition of strike) is an ostrich approach to world events.

Hmmm, I don't recall saying that at all. I just believe that this is a bunk story. Now your description of what I said is distorted.

Time will tell whether this story is real or not, I'm putting my money on false.

[K5GU]

If there's any truth to this, wouldn't Madame Secretary and "Red" Reddington, et al be on it by now?

[JSThane]

Just to address one point:

[quote="TVGuy"]
You think a training base in Mexico would not be easily discovered by civilians, military, satellite, binoculars if it were known to be there for nearly a year?
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It's quite easily possible. The deserts around and south of Juarez and Palomas are just as wild and rugged as the ones north of them. There are dozens of mountain ranges with hundreds, if not thousands, of box canyons, hideaways, and hidden valleys in them. Where I live, on the north side of the border, there is a small mountain range about 5 miles away that has canyons on the south end where no one ventures for weeks, if not months. On the north end, there are two state parks. This is right next to (what passes for) a major city in these parts. The terrain here is a large part of why the US military likes to train here prior to deployment to the middle east. You can hide a LOT within easy distance of a town.

A "training camp" does not have to be elaborate. All it really needs is a way in and out, and to be remote enough that no one will hear the booms. Housing? Tents. Food? Easily brought in via vehicle, or on foot (walking 20 miles a day through desert with a pack is a fact of life for some folks in Mexico). Weapons? Same manner of transport. And Mexico doesn't really have an active Bureau of Land Management that will find you like we do (our BLM -still- doesn't find most things), nor many armed ranchers who will both resent your presence AND be brave enough (or stupid enough) to challenge you for your presence. Driving off-road? No one cares.

What police presence they do have, tends to look the other way, for their own safety's sake, when stuff is going bang where it shouldn't. The cartels have drilled that into them as a self-preservation measure. And the military/federal forces there often don't have enough "time in field" to know where to look.

I'm not saying ISIS/AQ/Random Whackjobs have training camps in northern Mexico. I honestly don't know. But I do know it would be very, very easy for them to "slip under the radar" with a little caution and a little more graft (to cartels and authorities both). I also do know that jihadist literature -has- been found on both sides of our southern border, and that people of "suspicious national origin" have attempted to cross utilizing Mexican smugglers and/or attempted to blend into "normal" illegal alien groups crossing.

It's plausible to me.