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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:26 am
by KBCraig
propellerhead wrote:I think he's just pointing out how vague the definition is. It seems simple but it always brings a lot of question.
'Zackly.

The Legislature did an excellent job of defining "premises" in 46.035. It's rare that a legislative body can "define" something without raising more questions than answers.

As a rule, the more narrow the definition, the more questions are raised. Witness "school": defensive driving school? beauty school? Trucking driving school? Sunday school? dog obedience classes?

Kevin

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:28 am
by KBCraig
Charles L. Cotton wrote: I know what he's doing, he's telling me to get to work; right Kevin? :thumbsup:

Chas.
Your mission, should you choose to accept it...

...This tape will self destruct in 3...2...1...

:grin:

Kevin

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:51 am
by Roger Howard
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
propellerhead wrote:I think he's just pointing out how vague the definition is. It seems simple but it always brings a lot of question.
I know what he's doing, he's telling me to get to work; right Kevin? :thumbsup:

Chas.
Not fixed yet? What's the problem? Thought you could do anything. :rolll

professional sporting event???

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:42 am
by switch
First, there are two lists that you are getting confused. One list applies to everyone (SCRAP _ Schools, Courts, Racetracks, Airports and Polling Places). This list contains Racetrack and ONLY applies where there is parimutual betting - horse and dog tracks.

The other list ONLY applies to CHL's - (Jails/Correctional facilities, Intersholastic/Professional sporting events, and Bars) [It used to have 7 places listed but they 'repealed' Amusement Parks, Churches, Hospital/Nursing homes and Government meetings in 1997]. The Professional Sporting event would include auto races, pro-golf, Ranger games and Cowboy games (Would you consider the Cowboys 'professinal athletes'?) ;-) I assume the pro means paid participants OR paid admission.

When you go to the TX State Fair on TX/OU day, they warn you 'Don't carry in the Cotton Bowl'.

I need to pull one of my CHL handbooks and read what it says about 'professional'.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:57 pm
by G36Packer
Thanks all.

I wouldn't think paid admission would be a factor. They charge admission amateur TaeKwonDo tournaments to cover expenses.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:09 pm
by propellerhead
I don't think paying admission makes it a professional sports event. I'm a little doubtful that having amateur participants who might get awarded a cash prize also makes it a professional sports event. I think it's only when the participants are sponsored and paid even if they lose. That what I think makes it a professional sports event.

Definition of Professional Sporting event????

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:42 pm
by switch
KBCraig wrote:C'mon, folks... the definition of "professional sporting event" is right there beside the definition of "school".

Just scroll down past the definitions of dirk, dagger, and Bowie knife.

;-)

Kevin
I looked for it but could not find it.

If we are having this much trouble defining a 'professional sporting event', imagine how much fun it would be to watch a jury decide if you had violated this law. :evil:

Re: Definition of Professional Sporting event????

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:45 am
by KBCraig
switch wrote:
KBCraig wrote:C'mon, folks... the definition of "professional sporting event" is right there beside the definition of "school".

Just scroll down past the definitions of dirk, dagger, and Bowie knife.

;-)
I looked for it but could not find it.
Bingo!

ding-ding-ding, We have a winner!

There is no definition of "school". Nor "professional sporting event", nor "dirk", "dagger", or "bowie knife".

Kevin

Re: Definition of Professional Sporting event????

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:07 pm
by txinvestigator
KBCraig wrote:
switch wrote:
KBCraig wrote:C'mon, folks... the definition of "professional sporting event" is right there beside the definition of "school".

Just scroll down past the definitions of dirk, dagger, and Bowie knife.

;-)
I looked for it but could not find it.
Bingo!

ding-ding-ding, We have a winner!

There is no definition of "school". Nor "professional sporting event", nor "dirk", "dagger", or "bowie knife".

If we are having this much trouble defining a 'professional sporting event', imagine how much fun it would be to watch a jury decide if you had violated this law. :evil:

Kevin
Yes, but EVERY CHL holder knows that of you arrive at the gate for a Dallas Cowboys football game and realize that you are carrying you should;

lock your handgun safely in your car. :thumbsup:

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:42 pm
by Jeff Crotzer
I had a fellow CHL holder ask me the other day if Professional Wrestling (WWE) is considered a sport. Good question? They call it Sports entertainment. Wrestlers are paid and wrestling is a sport.
Does anyone have a take on this one?

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:05 pm
by Venus Pax
I would think, since many spectators are drunk, it would qualify under the 51% rule.