Legal definition of "professional sporting event"

G36Packer · Post by **G36Packer** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:14 pm

I always thought race track meant any kind of race track, i.e. car, horse, dog, etc. Then I read the legal definition of race track was a horse or dog track licensed by the state for on-site wagering.

So what about car races. Is there a legal definition for professional sporting event? Does the legal definition of professional sporting event cover Nascar, IRL, NHRA? I know they are professional but does it only apply to stick and ball sports?

txinvestigator · Post by **txinvestigator** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:20 pm

G36Packer wrote:I always thought race track meant any kind of race track, i.e. car, horse, dog, etc. Then I read the legal definition of race track was a horse or dog track licensed by the state for on-site wagering.

So what about car races. Is there a legal definition for professional sporting event? Does the legal definition of professional sporting event cover Nascar, IRL, NHRA? I know they are professional but does it only apply to stick and ball sports?

If the participants get paid for their participation in the even, it is a professional event.

TMS on a NASCAR Friday would be a pro event, and carry is prohibited. A SCCA race at TMS on Sunday would not be a pro event, and carry is legal.

longtooth · Post by **longtooth** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:46 pm

G36, I got into this a few yrs ago to. My mindset was the same as most others. I only thought of professional sports as ending in ___ball. My 1st realization was when I said something about a Rodeo. Friend said "You can't carry there. It is a pro sporting event."

Can't carry on the links watching the pros play. Car races, tennis, ...
Real problems come when a Pro sporting event is inside the confines of another legal carry event or place. Houston Fat Stock Show. Roedo evenings inside. Texas Forest Festival but only a bleacher set up for the "Professional Lumberjack competition".

again. Dallas State Fair & evening rodeo again. Some of this needs to be addressed in making those places legal carry. CHL holders have shown themselves to be the peaceful, courteous, & calming people of the tense places. I just don't go some places I would like to any more.

propellerhead · Post by **propellerhead** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:05 pm

txinvestigator wrote:If the participants get paid for their participation in the even, it is a professional event.

TMS on a NASCAR Friday would be a pro event, and carry is prohibited. A SCCA race at TMS on Sunday would not be a pro event, and carry is legal.

I've always wondered about this topic. I often go to the local 1/8th mile drag strip and run my car. Many people do on Street Nights, where anyone can take their street legal car, daily driver, grocery getter, whatever and run down the track. The race track organizers sometimes run Street Wars or Grudge Match events where people may win prizes like $50 or free passes to come race again. Would that constitute getting paid to race? Would that make it a professional sporting event? From my knowlege no one gets paid just to race. The winner of the event might win money though.

ElGato · Post by **ElGato** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:19 pm

longtooth wrote:G36, I got into this a few yrs ago to. My mindset was the same as most others. I only thought of professional sports as ending in ___ball. My 1st realization was when I said something about a Rodeo. Friend said "You can't carry there. It is a pro sporting event." Can't carry on the links watching the pros play. Car races, tennis, ...
Real problems come when a Pro sporting event is inside the confines of another legal carry event or place. Houston Fat Stock Show. Roedo evenings inside. Texas Forest Festival but only a bleacher set up for the "Professional Lumberjack competition". again. Dallas State Fair & evening rodeo again. Some of this needs to be addressed in making those places legal carry. CHL holders have shown themselves to be the peaceful, courteous, & calming people of the tense places. I just don't go some places I would like to any more.

Longtooth, you are showing your age when you call it the Houston Fat Stock Show, that goes way back.

G36Packer · Post by **G36Packer** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:28 pm

Thanks, all. That's the answer I expected but hey, I was wrong about race track so I was hoping!

longtooth · Post by **longtooth** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:28 pm

Yes sir Elgato. & not only that but when I started bucking it was still RCA Rodeo Cowboy Association. Now they have added the P in from for Pro. Getting old aint bad when you consider the alternative. Since you posted that you got to be pushing 60 too.

ElGato · Post by **ElGato** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:49 pm

longtooth wrote:Yes sir Elgato. & not only that but when I started bucking it was still RCA Rodeo Cowboy Association. Now they have added the P in from for Pro. Getting old aint bad when you consider the alternative. Since you posted that you got to be pushing 60 too.

I'm a 1940 model, I still ride but only keep one horse now, she's 16 hands [ Depth Charge breeding ] and getting hard for me to step up on, my next one will be no more than 15-1

MoJo · Post by **MoJo** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:52 pm

I think professional means you are paid to perform win or lose.

Just my $.02 worth.

ElGato · Post by **ElGato** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:15 pm

MoJo wrote:I think professional means you are paid to perform win or lose.

Just my $.02 worth.

Most likely all but Rodeo, there you pay all your expenses and to ride and if you don't win you are in the hole. Sometimes Day money won't cover the cost of getting there.

KBCraig · Post by **KBCraig** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:53 pm

C'mon, folks... the definition of "professional sporting event" is right there beside the definition of "school".

Just scroll down past the definitions of dirk, dagger, and Bowie knife.

Kevin

G36Packer · Post by **G36Packer** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:26 pm

KBCraig, I'm not sure if you are serious ont not but I don't see it.

propellerhead · Post by **propellerhead** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:15 pm

I think he's just pointing out how vague the definition is. It seems simple but it always brings a lot of question.

Post by **Crossfire** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:48 pm

I'm thinking that, if you have to pay to get in, and it's some sort of sport, then it's "professional". Just my 2 cents worth. Your mileage may vary.

Post by **Charles L. Cotton** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:27 pm

propellerhead wrote:I think he's just pointing out how vague the definition is. It seems simple but it always brings a lot of question.

I know what he's doing, he's telling me to get to work; right Kevin?

Chas.

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