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I really wish a clear law were created saying that CHL holders HAVE the right to carry in all these forbidden places. I don't think its appropriate that we should be restricted anywhere.

Venus Pax wrote:I really wish a clear law were created saying that CHL holders HAVE the right to carry in all these forbidden places. I don't think its appropriate that we should be restricted anywhere.

Roger Howard wrote:

Venus Pax wrote:I really wish a clear law were created saying that CHL holders HAVE the right to carry in all these forbidden places. I don't think its appropriate that we should be restricted anywhere.

EVERY WHERE the police go except for courts. It is the only things that makes sense.

Just FYI, I posed this question to the folks at Concealed Carry Magazine and got this:

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mnpistolclasscom wrote:

Ask 100 people and you will get 100 different answers.

As a technical matter, Post Offce carry with a permit would be legal as
long as you were doing so for "any lawful purpose".

As a practical matter, you could be arrested, incarcerated and
prosecuted.
You are quite likely to prevail in court at a cost approaching $3-5,000
in attorney's fees.

The next day, victory in hand, you are caught carrying in the Post
Office again. You could be arrested, incarcerated and prosecuted. You will
probably win again at a cost approaching $3-5,000 in attorney's fees.

They do this simply because the taxpayers are paying their expenses and
there is no penalty for them being wrong. Over and over and over.

Sometimes, the only winning move is not to play the game. Properly
concealed, there is no reason for them to arrest you unless you've had to
produce it to defend yourself. Carry might be less defensible than
actual self-defense, but both are technically allowed. You have to weigh the
risks against the benefits and decide accordingly.

Craig R. Brownell
Chief Instructor

at a cost approaching $3-5,000 in attorney's fees.

Maybe I'm wrong, but this estimate of attorney's fees seem a bit too low. After all, attorneys charge for their time and the Fed court system is known for plodding. This is more so, if the Feds want to make a point with you. Time = Money.

Popshot wrote:

at a cost approaching $3-5,000 in attorney's fees.

Maybe I'm wrong, but this estimate of attorney's fees seem a bit too low. After all, attorneys charge for their time and the Fed court system is known for plodding. This is more so, if the Feds want to make a point with you. Time = Money.

Grossly low!! IF you win, and that's a huge IF, you won't do it at the trial court level (District Court), you will do it at either the Circuit Court of Appeals or the U.S. Supreme Court. Forget the S/Ct., it will never hear the case. Remember, whoever takes this on will be the first to do so and the government is going to leave no stone unturned trying to uphold the conviction. Attorney fees will be many times that estimate - many times.

Chas.

Maybe this is where that CHL insurance would pay off!!!

This is the kind of poo that makes me wonder why I even spent the money on the class and the CHL application (I still haven't received the CHL yet!).

kanders wrote:This is the kind of poo that makes me wonder why I even spent the money on the class and the CHL application (I still haven't received the CHL yet!).

So, the only place you ever go is a post office?

Methinks way too much worry is devoted to this subject and the old "Do you want to be the test case" response.

When you receive your CHL, carry everywhere except where posted 30.06 compliant. Keep it concealed. When you need it, have it on your person. The old saying "Better judged by twelve than casrried by six" makes more sense to me.

If and when you use your firearm to defend yourself your actions will be scrutinized by the DA, so you will essentially be a test case no matter where and when you defend yourself. Why worry about the post office? Do you worry about the grocery store, church, hospital, etc? I had blood drawn for a test this morning at a non-compliant posted medical facility. I knew it was, I packed, no one there knew because I kept it concealed!

The sky is not falling!

If I am in a post office (very seldom) and something goes down and I have to defend myself, then I will worry aftrerwards. But I will have a significantly better chance at surviving to defend myself in court.

Anygun

The funny thing is, the local DA can't really do much on the "carrying in the post office" matter. He can hit you with anything else, but only Federal agents can enforce Federal laws on Federal land. Thats why we have Postal Inspectors. I've never even seen one, but we apparently have them.

Thanks Age for a great opinion from the carry magazine. I understand no one wants to become a "test-case". But, If I do have to use a weapon in defence of my life, I GUESS I would rather be alive and facing criminal charges, then to be dead knowing I refused to defend myself because I might end up labeled as a "test-case".

-As for not carrying, when you think you are in a "safe" place....good luck with that theory.

waffenmacht wrote:-As for not carrying, when you think you are in a "safe" place....good luck with that theory.

You had better be one heck of a good guesser
Thats similar to my favorite bumper sticker:
"If your living like their is no God... you'd better be right."

There's alot of great info here and The thing I realize most is that if I'm doing my part as a CHL holder and keeping my weapon concealed, I've got nothing to worrk about. While it certainly seems defensible (at the cost of a couple greenbacks) I am choosing to worry about that when/if that days comes.

Good info!