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AEA wrote:

snatchel wrote:Bet the porting does wonders for recoil on the big loads... But I'm not sure a flame directed upwards would be a good idea for a defensive weapon.

I agree that the porting would not be good for night work (too much flash in sightline). That's partly why my 3 incher does not have it. It MAY help in better control of your shorter barreled model. But my 3" handles hot loads just fine without the need for porting.

Shoot them side by side at night, and then I would love to hear your opinion.. Hmm that sounds snarky..

.. What I mean is... I really would like to hear another’s opinion after having shot both a ported and unported 3" .357 at night back to back.
I have, I have my opinion..interested in others.

Thanks, but I would rather NOT.

AEA wrote:Thanks, but I would rather NOT.

You would rather not know if what you assume in untested speculation is correct when tested for yourself?
Well that’s not a position i thought would be seen here in this forum If I misunderstood your response of 'I would rather NOT." to my suggesting of shooting both in order to make an accurate and fair opinion, then I apologize.. But it is how I’m reading your reply.

So, have any of those claiming to know it's a bad idea to use ported 3" (Snubbie) .357 revolver used or potentially used at night have any ACTUAL experience in shooting that gun and a like one un-ported at night?

Anyone? I can’t be the only person on this forum to have done so.. Come on, share your observations

You did not misunderstand my response.
I don't need or want a comparison test.

I decided on no porting for two reasons:
1. Loss of velocity for no additional gain.
2. Flash in sightline at night.

If my choice based on those two reasons are not agreeable to you, that is fine. I personally am happy with my choice. You are allowed to be happy with your comparison.

Already two of us feel differently than you. Me and him. So, that's 2 to 1.

Now.....go call someone else out.

Some of you folks are making me worry. I have my sights set on a S&W airweight in .357. Reading some of these posts about how the caliber is punishing in small framed revolvers is giving me pause. I think I saw one in the "rent-a-gun" cabinet at Bullet Trap. I may take it for a test ride before plunking down the 700 bucks for it. The idea of a lightweight carry weapon with a heavy hitting round was real appealing to me. Some of you folks are changing my mind.

bronco78 wrote:

AEA wrote:

snatchel wrote:Bet the porting does wonders for recoil on the big loads... But I'm not sure a flame directed upwards would be a good idea for a defensive weapon.

I agree that the porting would not be good for night work (too much flash in sightline). That's partly why my 3 incher does not have it. It MAY help in better control of your shorter barreled model. But my 3" handles hot loads just fine without the need for porting.

Shoot them side by side at night, and then I would love to hear your opinion.. Hmm that sounds snarky..

.. What I mean is... I really would like to hear another’s opinion after having shot both a ported and unported 3" .357 at night back to back.
I have, I have my opinion..interested in others.

I have never tried this experiment. I have fired ported barrels, just never in the dark. I figured it would create a "night blindness" issue. Your saying it does not?

AEA wrote:You did not misunderstand my response.
I don't need or want a comparison test.

I decided on no porting for two reasons:
1. Loss of velocity for no additional gain.
2. Flash in sightline at night.

If my choice based on those two reasons are not agreeable to you, that is fine. I personally am happy with my choice. You are allowed to be happy with your comparison.

Already two of us feel differently than you. Me and him. So, that's 2 to 1.

Now.....go call someone else out.

OK, so you have never fired a ported snubbe at night, Got it. Thanks, I was pretty sure thats what I was getting from you.

bronco78 wrote:OK, so you have never fired a ported snubbe at night, Got it. Thanks, I was pretty sure thats what I was getting from you.

If I say please will you tell us what your thought were on this? I had always just assumed the flash would cause a problem. What were your thoughts on it?

03Lightningrocks wrote:I have never tried this experiment. I have fired ported barrels, just never in the dark. I figured it would create a "night blindness" issue. Your saying it does not?

Im saying I have, and I don’t find ANY difference in loss of night vision from firing either one.. It makes no difference,, the flash from either causes the SAME loss of night vision.
NOW I to dislike the ported snubbies for other reasons, .
1:They spit stuff at you
2: They have some loss of velocity.
BUT the second one is really a red hearing.. at SD snubbie engagement distances, the .357 with typically SD loads is going to do just fine.

My point was and is.. “Flash” from a 3” or so snubbie with or without porting at night is not a valid concern IMHO having actually shot both at night.
Was not , nor am now trying to pick a fight Just looking for actual observations vice, what someone heard or read.

snatchel wrote:Blazer 158 gr .357
-Not much fun. Lotta recoil... But once I got through a few cylinders it wasn't too hard to shoot well.

Let me tell you about 158 gr Remington "White Tail" loads in a scandium framed .357 snubbie....... viewtopic.php?p=490416#p490416

Homey don't play that anymore.

Good on you for the Ruger. I keep telling myself I'm going to pick one of those babies up some day. I own a S&W 640 which would be similar except for the enclosed hammer design, and I think it is about the perfect kit gun, except for one thing.......and that is the enclosed hammer design. The gun was originally purchased for carry, and is kind of heavy to carry all day for only 5 rounds of ammo. But as a kit gun, having the Single Action option would make it perfect for that. If I were going to replace it, it would be with a SP101.

BTW, I kept my eyes peeled for a blue Chevy all the way to California. Never saw one.

Hahaha. Good story TAM. Shooting the full house loads out of a 24 oz SP101 wasn't a great, pleasurable experience. I think I will pass on shooting them out of a 13 oz wheelie.

Looks like we settled on the same carry ammo though. I've read a lot of stories about the hornady stuff liking to expand, even out of short barrels.

You didn't see me? I kept an eye out for a pathfinder too- no luck. Oh well. We will be in DFW next month visiting friends, maybe we can meet up for some range time.

Thanks for the feedback bronco78.

03Lightening--

Go ahead and get the .357 snubbie. You can always switch to lighter .357 loads or even .38+P loads for comfort. But def get the option so that you can shoot .357 if so desired. I'll tell you now that as unpleasant it is to shoot full house loads, it is reassuring. If you have the option to buy 2, get a 38+P rated snubbie and a heavier SP101 or GP100 type fr heavier .357 loads. I didn't have that option, so I compromised some added weight on a Heavier frame. Don't see myself pocket carrying the SP, but it carried nicely appendix and I would say its equivelant to concealing my Glock26.

snatchel wrote:03Lightening--

Go ahead and get the .357 snubbie. You can always switch to lighter .357 loads or even .38+P loads for comfort. But def get the option so that you can shoot .357 if so desired. I'll tell you now that as unpleasant it is to shoot full house loads, it is reassuring. If you have the option to buy 2, get a 38+P rated snubbie and a heavier SP101 or GP100 type fr heavier .357 loads. I didn't have that option, so I compromised some added weight on a Heavier frame. Don't see myself pocket carrying the SP, but it carried nicely appendix and I would say its equivelant to concealing my Glock26.

Thanks for the share. I slipped the .357 airweight into my pocket at the gun store and it felt as if it was not there. I could not believe it. I could easily pocket carry or IWB carry that piece. My main carry is a PM9 and that airweight would be as easy to conceal as my PM9. I WON'T ONE BAD...LOL. I was thinking a speed loader or two for extra rounds.