R. Lee Ermey breaks Longtooth's heart

[stevie_d_64]

I'll say it again...

If it goes bang everytime you pull the trigger, I like it...

Glocks...You either love 'em or hate 'em...They are ugly, they are plain...But they work for the most part and do what I want them to do when I want them to do it...

Psssssst...One of the reasons I carry one, is that it was easiest for me to meld with that piece of hardware and not have to "think" about it too much...

That doesn't mean I don't know how to work "other" platforms just as well...

[txinvestigator]

I'll say it again...

If it goes bang everytime you pull the trigger, I like it...

Glocks...You either love 'em or hate 'em...They are ugly, they are plain...But they work for the most part and do what I want them to do when I want them to do it...

Psssssst...One of the reasons I carry one, is that it was easiest for me to meld with that piece of hardware and not have to "think" about it too much...

That doesn't mean I don't know how to work "other" platforms just as well...

Once again I find myself agreeing with Stevie. I don't carry a Glock because they don't "feel" right TO ME. However, I can't tell you how many new shooters I put into a Glock due to its simplicity and low learning curve.

It is easy to get a new shooter shooting excellently with a Glock. (that makes you know who appear to be such a great instructor )

[O6nop]

I apologize, after reviewing the original post, I see that the intention was not to show how he supports 2A rights but how he must have hurt longtooths feelings. This is also a CHL forum not a politically based forum, so I was wrong on that account as well.

I started just recently into an enthusiasm with guns beyond a .22. I started with a Glock, moved to a S&W 686P, then on to 1911's... I have two, a Kimber and a SA GI. I shoot equally well with all of them and feel just as comfortable with all of them. I can pick up a gun that I've never shot before and after a few rounds, do just as well as I do with the ones I own. so I don't presume to say which is the best. I'm not the best shot yet, but I'm working on it.

SO just because a guy likes guns I have to keep shut about his spreading of myths and propaganda?

I saw no one "getting down on" Gunny.

BTW, he HAS the freedom to make a choice, just as WE have the freedom to comment about it and discuss it.

As far as Gunny spreading propaganda, I didn't see it that way, I saw it as an opinion, just as I saw his statement basically saying "obey the law now, change it when you can", as an opinion, but not necessarily as the view of everyone that is a gunowner. He is definitely an opinionated guy and not everyone is going to agree with him. His basic fault is that he tells it like he sees it.

"Getting Down on" may have been an incorrect term, "Implying that he knows little about someone else's favorite handgun" may not be appropriate either. So I retract that term as well.

I would never ask anyone to "keep shut", I guess I was expecting a balance, recognizing his support for our gun rights.

I may be getting fooled by his rhetoric, but I didn't see him as a myth and propaganda spreader, and a little more than someone who just "likes guns". I saw him as a crusader in something more important. Without those rights, it really wouldn't matter which gun was my favorite.

Before I read this article, I had no idea he would stand up and say the kind of things he said, I just enjoyed the heck out of his show and his acting.

[txinvestigator]

Gunny is a great 2nd supporter.

I like him, but I reserve the right to discuss and dispute his claims, especially those for which he is paid to make.

[O6nop]

OK, sorry about the fuss I made on previous posts, but I was impressed with the interview.

Hopefully, staying within the realm of the topic at hand, I do notice that on my .45acp Kimber Pro-carry SS II, my aim gets off after a hundred or so rounds, similar to Gunny. I attributed it to fatigue. That's when I switch over to one of my others and perforate paper some more. Switching over improves my aim, temporarily, but my aim gets off again, but not as much. The Glock 19 is a lighter gun and in 9mm, so maybe I have better stamina with it. And I don't go through as many rounds with my .38spl and .357 magnum.

Since what Gunny says is not-so-matter-of-fact, I wonder if I should still consider it fatigue. I use a variety of factory ammo and some of it not so 'clean' as others. Maybe that's it. Maybe it's the bull-barrel construction of the Kimber I have.

After reading some of these posts, maybe I can improve my 100+ round shooting technique with all my guns.

[jrosto]

After reading the Gunny's stuff for quite awhile, I'm pretty sure he would get a kick out of people commenting on that article. Heck, if you'd go to his website and post a link to this thread, he might just come and join in.

[Liberty]

Or maybe a better quality weapon. 700 rounds, 2 days, no cleaning and my Kimber never even hiccuped. more than once.

I see he likes myths too. (.45 va 9mm) lol

I think I understand his dislike of the 1911 as it was mine. I fired the 1911 when I was in the army. It just wasn't all that much fun to shoot. One can fire an M16 or even an M60 all day, it doesn't beat you up. I can fire a Glock or most full sized plastic guns and not get as tired, as the army issued 1911. I dont know if it is the weight or maybe the way the grip safety has to be held I got tired of shooting it. This might account for his calling it sluggish. It wasn't as much fun to me as any of the other weapons I got to try out. Maybe If they let me try out Kimber instead of a Colt I would have felt different. My guess is that he like myself has never fired a quality 1911

[txinvestigator]

Or maybe a better quality weapon. 700 rounds, 2 days, no cleaning and my Kimber never even hiccuped. more than once.

I see he likes myths too. (.45 va 9mm) lol

I think I understand his dislike of the 1911 as it was mine. I fired the 1911 when I was in the army. It just wasn't all that much fun to shoot. One can fire an M16 or even an M60 all day, it doesn't beat you up. I can fire a Glock or most full sized plastic guns and not get as tired, as the army issued 1911. I dont know if it is the weight or maybe the way the grip safety has to be held I got tired of shooting it. This might account for his calling it sluggish. It wasn't as much fun to me as any of the other weapons I got to try out. Maybe If they let me try out Kimber instead of a Colt I would have felt different. My guess is that he like myself has never fired a quality 1911

Different people like different guns, of course. He never mentioned sluggish or getting tired.

[stevie_d_64]

I'll say it again...

If it goes bang everytime you pull the trigger, I like it...

Glocks...You either love 'em or hate 'em...They are ugly, they are plain...But they work for the most part and do what I want them to do when I want them to do it...

Psssssst...One of the reasons I carry one, is that it was easiest for me to meld with that piece of hardware and not have to "think" about it too much...

That doesn't mean I don't know how to work "other" platforms just as well...

Once again I find myself agreeing with Stevie. I don't carry a Glock because they don't "feel" right TO ME. However, I can't tell you how many new shooters I put into a Glock due to its simplicity and low learning curve.

It is easy to get a new shooter shooting excellently with a Glock. (that makes you know who appear to be such a great instructor )

I feel so violated... So inferior...

[ElGato]

I'll say it again...

If it goes bang everytime you pull the trigger, I like it...

Glocks...You either love 'em or hate 'em...They are ugly, they are plain...But they work for the most part and do what I want them to do when I want them to do it...

Psssssst...One of the reasons I carry one, is that it was easiest for me to meld with that piece of hardware and not have to "think" about it too much...

That doesn't mean I don't know how to work "other" platforms just as well...

Once again I find myself agreeing with Stevie. I don't carry a Glock because they don't "feel" right TO ME. However, I can't tell you how many new shooters I put into a Glock due to its simplicity and low learning curve.

It is easy to get a new shooter shooting excellently with a Glock. (that makes you know who appear to be such a great instructor )

that's why I have so many Glock loaners.

[RPBrown]

Cracks me up!

I know it's all tongue-in-cheek but I think we have enough problems without creating more divisions, before you know it we'll have labels like "anti-1911" or "Pro-Glock".

Then I'm in trouble, I like em both.

[TX Rancher]

Cracks me up!

I know it's all tongue-in-cheek but I think we have enough problems without creating more divisions, before you know it we'll have labels like "anti-1911" or "Pro-Glock".

Then I'm in trouble, I like em both.

That's me too. I like my Glocks, and I recently bought an XD-45 and I'm impressed with it.

But I also like my Kimbers, Colts, Para, and Les Baer.

Now that I think about it, I also like Sig, S&W, Springfield, Tarus, Walther, and several others...

As to caliber, for several years when I first started out in Intel, 38 in a Colt Diamondback served me well. I was then allowed to "upgrade" to 357 (nothing wrong with wheel guns!). While on active duty in combat arms, 45 was my workhorse. I left the military before the transition to 9mm, and like Gunny thought the sun rose and set on the 45 ACP. In the last decade I've "discovered" 9mm and 40 cal.

So I guess I should register myself as a certified gun nut

[Jason73]

buying a weapon for looks is a lot like paying an extra 500 dollars for a gold plated hammer, even though the plain steel one will put a nail thru a board just as well.......this may just be me but I view guns as tools, not works of art - if it goes BANG when I need it to and puts the round where I intend it to go then its good in my book

[quidni]

buying a weapon for looks is a lot like paying an extra 500 dollars for a gold plated hammer, even though the plain steel one will put a nail thru a board just as well.......this may just be me but I view guns as tools, not works of art - if it goes BANG when I need it to and puts the round where I intend it to go then its good in my book

I agree... I remember one day last year I was visiting one of our friendly neighborhood gun stores. There was a pistol in one of their cases with heavily figured dark wood grips, which I like, but it also had gold-filled engraving, and a gold trigger and hammer spur.

Understand, each of the gents that work at that store has a deep and mischievous sense of humor, but you have to know them well for them to let it show. They'll smile, but that's usually it.

I looked at that dolled-up pistol, and one of the guys said, "Isn't it pretty?" I responded, "Yes, but I don't care for it." "Why not?"

I said, "I want a gun that goes Bang! Bang! when I pull the trigger - not Bling! Bling!"

I counted it quite an achievement that one of them actually had to fight to stifle his laughter.

[Skiprr]

I said, "I want a gun that goes Bang! Bang! when I pull the trigger - not Bling! Bling!"

Quidni may have just started the newest trend in "gansta" fashion and ordnance. And gold bullets; gotta have gold bullets. Hoppe's makes a bore solvent for that, right?