R. Lee Ermey breaks Longtooth's heart

KBCraig · Post by **KBCraig** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:48 am

If ever there's been someone who should be the stereotypical 1911 toter, it's The Gunny.

Read, and weep:

http://www.shootingindustry.com/02pages/Ftr0107b.html

Sorry, LT. I'm crushed, too.

Kevin

MrDrummy · Post by **MrDrummy** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:26 am

"Say it ain't so!!"

Ouch.

That does sting just a little bit.

I guess that I haven't been around firearms long enough to feel my 1911 drag... or maybe it doesn't?

JRG · Post by **JRG** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:26 am

Great interview! Thanks for posting it!

Loved the movie "Full Metal Jacket" also.

JRG

longtooth · Post by **longtooth** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:38 am

Scanning this morning & will have to read this evening. too much to do early.
Man, work & integrety sure get in the way sometimes dont they.

stevie_d_64 · Post by **stevie_d_64** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:50 am

Thurman: So, your message to the industry is: Donâ€™t get discouraged and keep the faith?

The Gunny:
We have to just bear with it, put up with it until better days come. Weâ€™re making it. I still have my guns, you have your guns. We still have ranges where we can go out and shoot. I think firearms, itâ€™s our natural heritage and our right to own firearms. And thereâ€™s nothing to be ashamed of in saying youâ€™re a firearms dealer or owner or manufacturer. The bad guys get their guns from someplace else, they donâ€™t get them from us. They donâ€™t get them from the honest people of America who run gun shops.

Yeah, just keep the faith. Hang in there. I think itâ€™s gonna get better before it gets worse, to tell you the truth.

I think that about sums it all up...

It sure doesn't mean sitting back and letting it get chipped away at...

Mithras61 · Post by **Mithras61** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:01 am

MrDrummy wrote:"Say it ain't so!!"

Ouch.

That does sting just a little bit.

I guess that I haven't been around firearms long enough to feel my 1911 drag... or maybe it doesn't?

I read this & thought

I've fired several hundred rounds at a sitting & no cleaning until after with no noticeable change in the handling of the 1911.

Maybe Gunny needs a new ammo supplier that uses a cleqaner burning powder...

or maybe he needs to use a bit less oil...

txinvestigator · Post by **txinvestigator** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:11 am

Mithras61 wrote:
MrDrummy wrote:"Say it ain't so!!"

Ouch.

That does sting just a little bit.

I guess that I haven't been around firearms long enough to feel my 1911 drag... or maybe it doesn't?
I read this & thought

I've fired several hundred rounds at a sitting & no cleaning until after with no noticeable change in the handling of the 1911.

Maybe Gunny needs a new ammo supplier that uses a cleqaner burning powder...

or maybe he needs to use a bit less oil...

Or maybe a better quality weapon. 700 rounds, 2 days, no cleaning and my Kimber never even hiccuped. more than once.

I see he likes myths too. (.45 va 9mm) lol

MrDrummy · Post by **MrDrummy** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:27 am

txinvestigator wrote: I see he likes myths too. (.45 va 9mm) lol

Hey, at least he got in on the right side of the fight!!

(I've always wanted an excuse to use that emoticon....)

jimlongley · Post by **jimlongley** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:30 am

I've even put 500 plus rounds of Wolf thru one of my 1911s on a Saturday, and gone out and shot IDPA (with Wolf) the next day without cleaning it, without a problem.

txinvestigator · Post by **txinvestigator** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:39 am

jimlongley wrote:I've even put 500 plus rounds of Wolf thru one of my 1911s on a Saturday, and gone out and shot IDPA (with Wolf) the next day without cleaning it, without a problem.

And I'll add that the ONLY gun I have seen go down during a training that I attended was a Glock.

(I've seen others malfunction in classes I was teaching, but it was either a Hi point type gun or caused by owner neglect)

nitrogen · Post by **nitrogen** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:53 am

Well, he's now a member of Team Glock, so i'm not suprised to hear him say that.

txinvestigator · Post by **txinvestigator** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:57 am

nitrogen wrote:Well, he's now a member of Team Glock, so i'm not suprised to hear him say that.

As in "Glock is paying me"? lol

G.C.Montgomery · Post by **G.C.Montgomery** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:01 am

My 1911's can start to drag.

But it happens after several weeks of shooting 500-600/week with no cleaning or lubrication. In the end, I'm not hurt by R.Lee Ermey's love of Glocks nor am I surpised by his regurgitation of old school myths.

R.Lee Ermey is PAID to endorse Glocks. I'm not saying he not a genuine fan of Glock or that his appreciation for the gun is unjustified. But do remember which side his bread is buttered on. The man is paid for his appearances and he receives new guns for FREE from Glock...That's a pretty sweet deal.

O6nop · Post by **O6nop** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:10 am

Cracks me up!

Here we got a guy, hitting the nail on the head about 2A rights and gun ownership, and most of the posters here are getting down on Gunny for his choice of firearms! He prefers a Glock. So what? I know it's all tongue-in-cheek but I think we have enough problems without creating more divisions, before you know it we'll have labels like "anti-1911" or "Pro-Glock".
I haven't been around guns enough to see anything "drag", but let the guy have the freedom to make a reasonable choice.

stevie_d_64 wrote:

Quote:
Thurman: So, your message to the industry is: Donâ€™t get discouraged and keep the faith?

The Gunny:
We have to just bear with it, put up with it until better days come. Weâ€™re making it. I still have my guns, you have your guns. We still have ranges where we can go out and shoot. I think firearms, itâ€™s our natural heritage and our right to own firearms. And thereâ€™s nothing to be ashamed of in saying youâ€™re a firearms dealer or owner or manufacturer. The bad guys get their guns from someplace else, they donâ€™t get them from us. They donâ€™t get them from the honest people of America who run gun shops.

Yeah, just keep the faith. Hang in there. I think itâ€™s gonna get better before it gets worse, to tell you the truth.

I think that about sums it all up...

It sure doesn't mean sitting back and letting it get chipped away at...

+1 stevie

txinvestigator · Post by **txinvestigator** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:29 am

O6nop wrote:Cracks me up!

Here we got a guy, hitting the nail on the head about 2A rights and gun ownership, and most of the posters here are getting down on Gunny for his choice of firearms! He prefers a Glock. So what? I know it's all tongue-in-cheek but I think we have enough problems without creating more divisions, before you know it we'll have labels like "anti-1911" or "Pro-Glock".
I haven't been around guns enough to see anything "drag", but let the guy have the freedom to make a reasonable choice.

SO just because a guy likes guns I have to keep shut about his spreading of myths and propaganda?

I saw no one "getting down on" Gunny.

BTW, he HAS the freedom to make a choice, just as WE have the freedom to comment about it and discuss it.