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The Annoyed Man wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

nyj wrote:I don't see why you would need half of those things if a problem arises in an urban environment. Do you plan on stopping by a creek for a sip of water while you make your way through zombies on your way home?

If a person feels the "end is nigh", they carry stuff like that. Me... my plan is to shoot that guy and take his stuff.

You'll notice that my EDC kit is not really a survival kit. It's a kit full of handy stuff that won't fit in my pockets.

Oh, I forgot to add that it also contains a pair of curved hemostats. . . . . .

But you don't carry it. It's in your car. Bug out gear (or tools) in the car is smart.

nyj wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

nyj wrote:I don't see why you would need half of those things if a problem arises in an urban environment. Do you plan on stopping by a creek for a sip of water while you make your way through zombies on your way home?

If a person feels the "end is nigh", they carry stuff like that. Me... my plan is to shoot that guy and take his stuff.

You'll notice that my EDC kit is not really a survival kit. It's a kit full of handy stuff that won't fit in my pockets.

Oh, I forgot to add that it also contains a pair of curved hemostats. . . . . .

But you don't carry it. It's in your car. Bug out gear (or tools) in the car is smart.

I have been trying to talk my neighbors into stock piling food so I can have multiple places to shop when the zombie apocalypse arrives.

TAM, wow that's sweet! Will have to look into that. Thanks

03Lightningrocks wrote:

nyj wrote:I don't see why you would need half of those things if a problem arises in an urban environment. Do you plan on stopping by a creek for a sip of water while you make your way through zombies on your way home?

If a person feels the "end is nigh", they carry stuff like that. Me... my plan is to shoot that guy and take his stuff.

2 problems with that...

1. The people who are smart enough to plan ahead can generally speaking return fire. Like me

2. The feral humans that won't or can't return effective fire generally speaking not prepared to survive past this afternoon!

03Lightningrocks wrote:

nyj wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

nyj wrote:I don't see why you would need half of those things if a problem arises in an urban environment. Do you plan on stopping by a creek for a sip of water while you make your way through zombies on your way home?

If a person feels the "end is nigh", they carry stuff like that. Me... my plan is to shoot that guy and take his stuff.

You'll notice that my EDC kit is not really a survival kit. It's a kit full of handy stuff that won't fit in my pockets.

Oh, I forgot to add that it also contains a pair of curved hemostats. . . . . .

But you don't carry it. It's in your car. Bug out gear (or tools) in the car is smart.

I have been trying to talk my neighbors into stock piling food so I can have multiple places to shop when the zombie apocalypse arrives.

Now that there is funny.

nyj wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

nyj wrote:I don't see why you would need half of those things if a problem arises in an urban environment. Do you plan on stopping by a creek for a sip of water while you make your way through zombies on your way home?

If a person feels the "end is nigh", they carry stuff like that. Me... my plan is to shoot that guy and take his stuff.

You'll notice that my EDC kit is not really a survival kit. It's a kit full of handy stuff that won't fit in my pockets.

Oh, I forgot to add that it also contains a pair of curved hemostats. . . . . .

But you don't carry it. It's in your car. Bug out gear (or tools) in the car is smart.

No, I don't carry it, and yes, I keep it in my car, but I also consider it as an adjunct to my bugout bag, which is much bigger and more aimed at "survival" stuff.

I've been prepping in layers, if you will. Layer 1, the minimalist layer, is the EDC kit I keep in my car. Layer 2 is the bugout bag, kept at my house. That's a decent sized backpack with a lot of stuff in it, including things like water filter straws, camp stove, etc., etc. We also have portable shelter. Layer 3 is the guns and ammo part for protecting ourselves and what we have, and also ammo reloads for barter (and also so that I can steal the food that LightningRocks03 steals from other people ). Layer 4 is our own stored foods. . . . still working on that one. Layer 5 will eventually be the purchase of a piece of property to which I will someday retire, and which will be my family's sanctuary. At some point, all of my assets will be transferred there.

The thing is, this is not all just "doomsday" stuff. When I lived in California, we had a fairly extensive earthquake kit in our home. Anyone in California who lives near an earthquake fault and doesn't keep a well provisioned kit is a fool who deserves whatever happens to him. Heck, even the government urges people to have an earthquake/disaster kit. California also has lots of brushfires. If you live in an area threatened by periodic brush fires, you need to have a "grab and go" kit to get you through the next few days if forced to evacuate until police and fire departments allow you back into your neighborhood. Here, it isn't earthquakes, it's tornadoes. . . . .and brush fires. It just makes good sense to have some supplies on hand in case you find yourself without shelter, food, or protection.

In the event of a "social adjustment," I'm always going to bug-in before I bug-out anyway because I'm not going to bugout without my wife, and I'm calculating that I won't have that much trouble getting home. The stuff in my car is just handy stuff that might make things a bit easier. If I get home, then the EDC kit will go into my bugout bag.

The Annoyed Man wrote:It's all carried in a Maxpedition E.D.C. Pocket Organizer — http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/E-D ... -7p961.htm — and fits easily under the car seat.

Just been added to my Christmas wish list!

The Annoyed Man wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

nyj wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

nyj wrote:I don't see why you would need half of those things if a problem arises in an urban environment. Do you plan on stopping by a creek for a sip of water while you make your way through zombies on your way home?

If a person feels the "end is nigh", they carry stuff like that. Me... my plan is to shoot that guy and take his stuff.

You'll notice that my EDC kit is not really a survival kit. It's a kit full of handy stuff that won't fit in my pockets.

Oh, I forgot to add that it also contains a pair of curved hemostats. . . . . .

But you don't carry it. It's in your car. Bug out gear (or tools) in the car is smart.

I have been trying to talk my neighbors into stock piling food so I can have multiple places to shop when the zombie apocalypse arrives.

Now that there is funny.

Thank you... It was intended to be.

Syntyr wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

nyj wrote:I don't see why you would need half of those things if a problem arises in an urban environment. Do you plan on stopping by a creek for a sip of water while you make your way through zombies on your way home?

If a person feels the "end is nigh", they carry stuff like that. Me... my plan is to shoot that guy and take his stuff.

2 problems with that...

1. The people who are smart enough to plan ahead can generally speaking return fire. Like me

2. The feral humans that won't or can't return effective fire generally speaking not prepared to survive past this afternoon!

Two problems with that. You are assuming you would see me coming. Two.. You are assuming you would see me coming.

I'm just cutting up. I love hopping on the prepper threads and giving people crap.

03Lightningrocks wrote:

Syntyr wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

nyj wrote:I don't see why you would need half of those things if a problem arises in an urban environment. Do you plan on stopping by a creek for a sip of water while you make your way through zombies on your way home?

If a person feels the "end is nigh", they carry stuff like that. Me... my plan is to shoot that guy and take his stuff.

2 problems with that...

1. The people who are smart enough to plan ahead can generally speaking return fire. Like me

2. The feral humans that won't or can't return effective fire generally speaking not prepared to survive past this afternoon!

Two problems with that. You are assuming you would see me coming. Two.. You are assuming you would see me coming.

I'm just cutting up. I love hopping on the prepper threads and giving people crap.

No Problem I am as well!

Answer to you supposition - LANDMINES! or my 100 lb German Shepherd ;) Defense In Depth

The Annoyed Man wrote:15 pack, $2.65 - http://www.amazon.com/G-I-P-38-Can-Open ... can+opener

Not to hijack but, my order for two 15 packs from the micro tools vendor above got me two P38s. I have sent them a note. We'll see what comes of it.

My minimal survial gear list on an EDC level?

1). Kershaw knife (rotating a few)
2). Streamlight Microstream

That's all that I'll hazard to put in my pockets on an everyday level other than the standard wallet and keys. I keep a bag of stuff in the car which is loaded down pretty well with 21st century survival items.

I always have my Starbucks card! ALWAYS!!!! Never leave home without it.

What do I carry besides my gun? My backpack, though the bulk is work stuff, usually contains a few "bars" of food. I've got water and a heavy winter jacket out in the car. I'm aware enough of local roads and geography to be able to get home from pretty much anywhere within a day's walk (maybe two) without getting too lost (and without consulting the map app on my phone). There's a first-aid kit at work that I could raid in an emergency, but I should probably get something to keep in my car. My cell phone's battery is usually pretty charged (one of those backup battery cases is on my to-get list). In the short term (say, less than a month), nothing particularly life-threatening would happen if I can't take my medications. Oh, I've got a knife in my car.

I think I'm fairly good for something bad happening anywhere I'm likely to be. Can anyone think of anything I'm missing?

I think I'm fairly good for something bad happening anywhere I'm likely to be. Can anyone think of anything I'm missing?

flashlight?