The Presidents speech today "woven into the fabric"

[dale blanker]

Yeah, Obama is hard to take but what I have seen of the speech seems reasonable. And it would certainly be nice to have Muslims help in the fight with radical Islam. As the fastest-growing religion in America, by the year 2050, the number of Muslims is projected to more than double, surpassing Judaism as the country’s second-largest religious group after Christianity.

Reasonable? Really? Having the President of the United States up there selling Islam like a carnival barker selling snake oil? ...

It doesn't seem like you've heard the entire speech or you have a problem with perception.

Yes, it was sympathetic and positive to peaceful Muslims but a lot of time was spent reminding the audience that they are also Americans. They should not hesitate to speak out against the likes of ISIL. He was trying to enlist their support in the fight, not promote Islam. Hope it works!

You simply cannot be serious, or you choose to ignore the obvious. Islamic terrorism has achieved unprecedented influence and power under Obama.

Well, it seems that you are ignoring the topic of this thread - the speech. Listen to it. The rest of what you say may be true - or not.

[Bitter Clinger]

Yeah, Obama is hard to take but what I have seen of the speech seems reasonable. And it would certainly be nice to have Muslims help in the fight with radical Islam. As the fastest-growing religion in America, by the year 2050, the number of Muslims is projected to more than double, surpassing Judaism as the country’s second-largest religious group after Christianity.

Reasonable? Really? Having the President of the United States up there selling Islam like a carnival barker selling snake oil? ...

It doesn't seem like you've heard the entire speech or you have a problem with perception.

Yes, it was sympathetic and positive to peaceful Muslims but a lot of time was spent reminding the audience that they are also Americans. They should not hesitate to speak out against the likes of ISIL. He was trying to enlist their support in the fight, not promote Islam. Hope it works!

You simply cannot be serious, or you choose to ignore the obvious. Islamic terrorism has achieved unprecedented influence and power under Obama.

Well, it seems that you are ignoring the topic of this thread - the speech. Listen to it. The rest of what you say may be true - or not.

Yawn all you want, after insinuating that I am lying? Well here are some more facts that undermine your false narrative:

Before Obama visited the Islamic Society of Baltimore, he asked the FBI for its opinion of the mosque. FBI investigators informed Obama of the mosque’s ties to terrorism. They urged him not to confer it with the legitimacy that comes with a presidential visit.

Obama ignored the FBI’s advice.

Obama visited the Islamic Society of Baltimore, a mosque with longstanding ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas. The mosque’s former imam Mohammad Adam el-Sheikh was active in the Islamic American Relief Agency, a charity deemed a terror group in 2004 after the US Treasury Department determined it had transferred funds to Osama bin Laden, Hamas, al-Qaida and other terrorist groups.

El-Sheikh left the Baltimore mosque to take over the Dar el-Hijra mosque in northern Virginia. He replaced Anwar al-Awlaki as imam after Awlaki moved to Yemen in 2003. In Yemen Awlaki rose to become a senior al-Qaida commander.

Awlaki radicalized many American jihadists both through direct contact and online. He radicalized US Army major Nidal Malik Hasan, and inspired him to carry out the 2009 massacre of 13 US soldiers and civilians at Fort Hood in Texas. Awlaki was killed by a US drone strike in 2011.

In 2010, a member of the Islamic Society of Baltimore was arrested for planning to attack an army recruiting office.

So what is next Dale Blanker? Will you offer us a video of "Moms Demanding Action against Gun Violence"?

[dale blanker]

Well, it seems that you are ignoring the topic of this thread - the speech. Listen to it. The rest of what you say may be true - or not.

Yawn all you want, after insinuating that I am lying? Well here are some more facts that undermine your false narrative:

Bitter Clinger, I am not insinuating that you are lying. In fact, I believe that you believe what you are saying is true, and like I said before, it might be.

My point simply has to do with the content of the speech which I suspect few have bothered to really listen to in its entirety.

My "narrative" is simply that it appears to me Obama is trying to enlist the support of the Muslim community in the fight against radical Islam.

[Bitter Clinger]

Well, it seems that you are ignoring the topic of this thread - the speech. Listen to it. The rest of what you say may be true - or not.

Yawn all you want, after insinuating that I am lying? Well here are some more facts that undermine your false narrative:

Bitter Clinger, I am not insinuating that you are lying. In fact, I believe that you believe what you are saying is true, and like I said before, it might be.

My point simply has to do with the content of the speech which I suspect few have bothered to really listen to in its entirety.

My "narrative" is simply that it appears to me Obama is trying to enlist the support of the Muslim community in the fight against radical Islam.

[dale blanker]

Ok, just one more time...
I wasn't going to respond to the cartoon about being repetitive but when conservative columnist David Brooks recently said the following about Obama's speech, I can't resist quoting the part that's awfully close to what I posted earlier:
"President Obama, meanwhile, went to a mosque, looked into people’s eyes and gave a wonderful speech reasserting their place as Americans."

You can see the whole article at http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/09/opini ... obama.html

Of course you can disagree with Brooks too but doing so without a reference that's comparable to Brooks won't count for much.

[Bitter Clinger]

Wait, wait, is this the same idiotic speech where Obama stated that Islam comes from the word "salam" that means "peace"? Any fifth grader knows that Islam means "submission". I think this video sums you up nicely:
https://youtu.be/4a6YdNmK77k

[dale blanker]

Yes, I've heard the word defined both ways: surrender/submission or peace. See http://www.barghouti.com/islam/meaning.html. So what is the big deal about using it one way or the other. Maybe Obama was promoting the positive, trying to gain their approval and their support(?) Sneaky.

Thanks for sharing the Bob Hope video. We can always use a little more humor and a little less bigotry.