Gun Range question...

[Liberty]

I'll just refer back to what I posted on this thread yesterday, to wit:

"Local indoor range and both gun shops I frequent here in the Shreveport/Bossier City area have similar "no loaded firearms" signs. I've asked at all three places, and gotten the same answer from all three:
"Just keep it concealed.""

That being said, is it that darn difficult to ask, guys? There's no need for a lot of drama over a sign, just corner the manager/owner and ask a simple question.

Then you'll have the answer you're looking for.

If I open a dialog about the sign and ask permision to carry. I believe I am no longer concealed.

[txinvestigator]

I'll just refer back to what I posted on this thread yesterday, to wit:

"Local indoor range and both gun shops I frequent here in the Shreveport/Bossier City area have similar "no loaded firearms" signs. I've asked at all three places, and gotten the same answer from all three:
"Just keep it concealed.""

That being said, is it that darn difficult to ask, guys? There's no need for a lot of drama over a sign, just corner the manager/owner and ask a simple question.

Then you'll have the answer you're looking for.

If I open a dialog about the sign and ask permision to carry. I believe I am no longer concealed.

[BoneDigger]

I am going to call the dealer/range manager/store owner and ask his what the intent of the sign actually is.

There have been two instances while I was looking at their guns that an employee showed me what/how he was carrying. These were two separate people, and one of them is the owner. So, I KNOW that they are carrying (even though I consider it inappropriate to SHOW people). Also, one of them is the CHL instructor.

These guys KNOW the 30.06 sign and what it means. I am guessing that, as others have pointed out, it is there intent to keep Joe public from coming in with a loaded rifle, etc. I doubt it applies to CHL carriers, as long as it is concealed. However, I'm not SURE of their intent, so I will call.

For $18 a range session, they better work HARD to keep my business. I'll keep you guys posted.

Todd

[O6nop]

my opinion would be that since there is no 30.06 sign, you can lawfully carry concealed. If the range owner discovers you have a loaded concealed gun AND he doesn't want you to have one then he can ask you to leave. No laws are broken and you haven't lost anything by leaving because you were going to refrain from using his business anyway.

IF you bring a carry weapon in ...anywhere.... It should remain concealed, you won't be using it on the range anyway. If you want to practice with your carry, then conceal your backup. If you want to shoot every gun that you have, I don't know what to tell you but then there's really not much reason to carry concealed if you're going to break it out anyway.

Carry concealed, keep it concealed. Just my opinion.

[pbandjelly]

yeah, not all of us have a safe full of weaponry to choose from.
besides, aren't you supposed to be VERY proficient with your carry piece?
to me that means practicing with it often.
I carry all 3 handguns I have, so everytime I go to the range, I shoot all three. One is designated my carry for the day, and it is not shot as much, so as to keep the gunk level down, in case it needs to be used for it's acquired purpose.

[O6nop]

yeah, not all of us have a safe full of weaponry to choose from.
besides, aren't you supposed to be VERY proficient with your carry piece?
to me that means practicing with it often.
I carry all 3 handguns I have, so everytime I go to the range, I shoot all three. One is designated my carry for the day, and it is not shot as much, so as to keep the gunk level down, in case it needs to be used for it's acquired purpose.

I think this was directed at my response ?
OK, you say you have three guns that you carry concealed always? It's your opinion that you need three carry guns at a gun range. That's another instance where I don't know how to answer your question, because you don't want it answered.

What I would do in your case ...
Conceal one, just for the trip to the range. Practice with your other two for an hour or so. Come back again another day, conceal one of the other ones, practice with two again. Come back again, conceal the other one practice with two. Just bring the ones that you want to practice with, unloaded.

[pbandjelly]

meant that with a or a or even a

[Mike1951]

There have been two instances while I was looking at their guns that an employee showed me what/how he was carrying. These were two separate people, and one of them is the owner. So, I KNOW that they are carrying (even though I consider it inappropriate to SHOW people). Also, one of them is the CHL instructor.

These guys KNOW the 30.06 sign and what it means. I am guessing that, as others have pointed out, it is there intent to keep Joe public from coming in with a loaded rifle, etc. I doubt it applies to CHL carriers, as long as it is concealed. However, I'm not SURE of their intent, so I will call.

It's been my experience that many gun store employees carry under the cover of the business owner authorizing the carry. This has been the case since long before the passage of our CHL law.

(§ 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS.)
46.15 Nonapplicability
...(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:
...(2) is on the person's own premises or premises under
the person's control unless the person is an employee or agent of
the owner of the premises and the person's primary responsibility
is to act in the capacity of a security guard to protect persons or
property, in which event the person must comply with Subdivision (5);

So the employees may or may not have CHL's and they would still be ok.

While not security guards, it is intended to discourage robbery.