Say it ain't so Rick! *Perry endorses Giuliani*

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Say it ain't so Rick! *Perry endorses Giuliani*

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Perry endorses Giuliani
By JOHN MORITZ
jmoritz@star-telegram.com

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS / KEVIN WOLF
Texas Gov. Rick Perry addresses The Club for Growth at its Fall Conference in Washington on Wednesday. Perry has endorsed former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani in the 2008 presidential race. Perry said he likes Giuliani's fiscal conservatism and that the nation needs a leader who understands "the stifling effect" of raising taxes.

AUSTIN -- Saying he got a look-in-the-eye promise that Rudy Giuliani would appoint "strict constructionist" judges to the U.S. Supreme Court, conservative Gov. Rick Perry on Wednesday made official his endorsement of the former New York mayor for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination.

"The mayor knows how to lead, he knows how to get results, and he knows how to win," Perry told Texas reporters during a telephone news conference with Giuliani from Washington, D.C.

Perry said he could overlook Giuliani's support for abortion rights and for same-sex civil unions but made clear that he and the former mayor would have some differences. The governor also closed the door on a possible vice presidential run, even though Giuliani said Perry was sure to be on almost every GOP candidate's short list of potential running mates.

The perceived ability to defeat Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton appeared to trump all other considerations in Perry's decision.

Perry said there was a "vast chasm of difference" between the outlooks of Clinton and Giuliani and that the ex-mayor ran New York City as "an old-time conservative" by cutting government spending and battling crime.

One Texas conservative activist who has not decided whom to support next year called Perry's decision a smart move.

"It is really good news for Rudy Giuliani," said Peggy Venable, who heads the Texas office of the conservative Americans For Prosperity. "Gov. Perry has proven himself to be a not only a fiscal conservative, but a personal conservative as well."

For only the second time in a generation, no Texan appears poised to win a spot on the national GOP ticket. And many Texas Republican leaders are playing a wait-and-see approach to the 2008 presidential campaign.

Perry said he "cogitated" over the decision on who he would back for six months. During that time, he said he had several face-to-face meetings with Giuliani, who assured him that he would not appoint activist federal judges, which is conservative code for judges who would either hold the line on expanding abortion rights or vote to overturn the 1973 decision that gave women the right to terminate a pregnancy.

Giuliani, who advocated controls on gun ownership as mayor, said that he and Perry were not too far apart on the Second Amendment issues. Perry described himself as a staunch backer of the rights of law-abiding citizens to cary arms.

"I support the Second Amendment," Giuliani said. "It gives you the right to bear and carry arms."

But he said he would not support a national law to give citizens the right to carry concealed handguns because such matters should be decided by the individual states, and in some cases by individual local governments.

Perry's decision to align himself with Giuliani, who is leading the crowded GOP field in several national polls is considered a major plumb for the New Yorker. Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson and Attorney General Greg Abbott are co-chairman of former U.S. Sen. Fred Thompson's presidential bid, but neither has the clout that Perry has amassed since first winning statewide office in 1990.

Venable, who described herself as a fiscal and social conservative, said she has not decided which candidate she will support next year. But she said Perry's decision to board the Giuliani bus is a smart move.

"A lot of us in the conservative movement are of the mind that which ever candidate can beat Hillary Clinton is who we should go with," she said.

Guiliani is not without Texas ties in his own right. He is a partner in the blue-chip Houston-based law firm of Bracewell & Giuliani, formerly Bracewell & Patterson. And he was an early supporter of then-Texas Gov. George W. Bush's presidential campaign in 2000.

Perry's endorsement comes nearly eight years to the day that Giuliani though his support to Bush.

John Moritz reports from the Star-Telegram Austin Bureau, 512-476-4294.

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/271022.html

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It appears that it was his only choice to help us protect our rights........

Although a lot of us like Fred or Ron, I am afraid that NEITHER of them could beat Hillery. So then, I agree that this is his best chance to get the least offensive in office for us.
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I won't vote for him or any Liberal. The Republicans run him and they will lose.
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When it comes to human rights like RKBA he might be worse than any Democrat. The Republicans in Congress would at least consider voting against victim disarmament legislation pushed by Clinton but they would probably roll over for Giuliani. If you're thinking about voting for Rudy, please remember that Clinton's rifle ban expired but the elder Bush's rifle ban is still in effect.
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Much as I hate to say it, but I honestly think Rudy is the only chance the Republicans have of winning the election. Perry was just buttering up the party with this endorsement, working on his own political career (IMHO). Look at how quickly he denies the running mate portion. Anyone care to bet on our next Republican senatorial candidate?

Here is my logic on why the Repub have to run Rudy:

The Dems are going to nominate either Hillary or Obama. This is catering to their base and the upset Repubs who don't like the extreme religious bent the party has been taking. The Repubs can cater to their base, which would be to nominate Fred or someone similar. Or, they can go for someone seen as a moderate to try for the middle ground. Most of the base will vote with the party anyway (and the Dems are much better at getting this to happen than the Repubs). So, if the Dems leave the middle ground, the Repubs should go after it. Rudy does just that, even though he alienates part of the base. He is a net gain in votes for them.

Then add in the fact that I do not believe this country is ready for either a black or female president. Give the liberals who still have this prejudice that they won't admit to a chance to elect someone they think they can live with, and the Repubs will actually have a chance of stealing some of the Dem base. Add in the number of anti's Hillary will bring out (the anti's are always stronger and more determined to vote, than the pro's), and we have a Repub winner. Hopefully, his coattails will also give them control of the house, or at least close enough to keep things tied up, and we have the strategy for the party.

And, to help keep this on topic, I want to point out that the Repubs are smarter than the Dems, at least in my opinion. They know Rudy's previous anti-gun stances and how it could hurt them. The party is counting on the fact that they can control Rudy and stop him from getting any bills that are truly anti-gun. I have my doubts about the control, but I don't think he will be as bad for us as the Dems would.

I am still voting Libertarian, or writing myself in (I could do that job as well as some of the candidates could). I would vote for Paul, but I don't see him getting on the main ballot and I do not vote in primaries, not being a party member.
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I'm still waiting for Fred to energize the base. It may not happen, but there's still a glimmer of hope. Rudy is only conservative in a small way when it comes to fiscal matters. He is still a big time "government program" advocate. Other than his supposed stance on reducing, or controlling taxes, he shares absolutely none of the values I was raised with... at least none that I am aware of. Oh, we do both love the U.S.A. so I've been told, so that's common ground.

As for the Gov, I think you're right about posturing for Kay Bailey's Senate seat. And we all should be very aware of KBH's next move. She would most likely make a good Governor anyway. Ain't the inner circle of 'good ole boys" wonderful?
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srothstein wrote:I would vote for Paul, but I don't see him getting on the main ballot and I do not vote in primaries, not being a party member.
You don't have to be a party member to vote in a primary in Texas.
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KBCraig wrote:
srothstein wrote:I would vote for Paul, but I don't see him getting on the main ballot and I do not vote in primaries, not being a party member.
You don't have to be a party member to vote in a primary in Texas.
Yeah, but if you vote in the primary you can't go to the Libertarian District meetings which nominate the Libertarian candidates. You can only participate in 1 partys nomination process.
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If I'm not wrong New York has some of the toughest gun controll laws in the nation. It bothers me that Rudy has got this far.
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SkipB wrote:If I'm not wrong New York has some of the toughest gun controll laws in the nation.
New York City's firearms restrictions are decades old, so Mr. Giuliani can't be blamed for them.

His true colors were demonstrated by the lawsuits he filed agains firearms manufacturers in 2000.

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I'm voting for the two Steve's
Rothstein/Stevie D in '08!!!
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Thanks for that info Jim. Not sure yet who I will cast my vote for. :?:
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It wasn't long after 911 when Guliani declared all Americans "Honorary New Yorkers."

What an insult. You gonna spit on me, spit on me.
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Post by stevie_d_64 »

DoubleJ wrote:I'm voting for the two Steve's
Rothstein/Stevie D in '08!!!
Now thats a ticket I could support!!!

Rest assured your 2nd Amendment stuff would be in good hands...

And a lot of other irritations would go away as well...Just because...;-)
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