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Where can I carry?
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:07 pm
by Stupid
After reading the law, it seems the only place that I can carry is at my own home, that is if my wife permits. Can anybody, in no-mumble-jumble way, tell me where I can carry?
Any parking lot? Kroger? Walmart? Shopping Mall? Starbucks? Katy Mills? Six Flag? Reliant Center?
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:19 pm
by CaptDave
Just curious, have you taken the Texas CHL course? It doesn't sound like it because the answers to those questions are thoroughly discussed (if you have a good instructor) during the class.
To legally carry in Texas you must take the course, then submit photo, fingerprints, proof of course completion, application and application fee to DPS.
You might want to browse here:
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... sindex.htm
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:30 pm
by Stupid
Of course, I did. I scored perfectly both written and shooting tests.
The way the law is written is pretty much saying we can only carry at home without getting any trouble. I go to school all the time, if I forget once and walk in their doors, I would be under arrest.
In my stupid opinion, the only place that should not allow CH is on any private properties - incluing the 51% alcohol stuff if you want. For all public places, we should be allowed to carry.
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:34 pm
by Stupid
Another thing that amazes me is about children. We have to keep guns away from children, all right. If one day, I was being harmed by a bad guy, my boy picked up my gun and scared the bad guy away, and I would be taken to jail because I allowed my boy to have access. If he shot the bad guy, the bad guy would sue me for negligence in both criminal and civil courts, right?
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:45 pm
by Stupid
This is even funnier!
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:47 pm
by Stupid
According to 46.03, if I am in my community playground carrying a gun lawfully, and a bunch of students come in, I need to immediately go disarm myself or I would be arrested????
§ 46.035(f)(3) "'Premises' means a building or a portion of a building. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area."
§ 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person
commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or
recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club,
or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):
(1) on the physical premises of a school or
educational institution, any grounds or building on which an
activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or . . .
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:49 pm
by txinvestigator
Stupid wrote:Another thing that amazes me is about children. We have to keep guns away from children, all right. If one day, I was being harmed by a bad guy, my boy picked up my gun and scared the bad guy away, and I would be taken to jail because I allowed my boy to have access. If he shot the bad guy, the bad guy would sue me for negligence in both criminal and civil courts, right?
You did not pay much attention in class, did you? Your post is 100% wrong.
Re: This is even funnier!
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:50 pm
by txinvestigator
Stupid wrote:According to 46.03, if I am in my community playground carrying a gun lawfully, and a bunch of students come in, I need to immediately go disarm myself or I would be arrested????
§ 46.035(f)(3) "'Premises' means a building or a portion of a building. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area."
§ 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person
commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or
recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club,
or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):
(1) on the physical premises of a school or
educational institution, any grounds or building on which an
activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or . . .
Stop it. We all know the law, you are intentionally posting idiotic, twisted scenarios that don't really apply.
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:55 pm
by Stupid
Please explain. I am not trying to be an a** here. I am trying to understand the law.
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:09 pm
by ElGato
Hello Investigator
I started to get into this thing, with the affirmative defense in PC 46.13, (c) (2) lawful defense by the child, and changed my mind, we know what's going on here, best to just leave it be.
Mr. Stupid knowing the law is a requirement for having the CHL. I suggest you continue to study your CHL handgun laws, then if you have any reasonable questions, come back to us with them and we will be more than happy to answer them for you.
Tomcat
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:18 pm
by Stupid
Thank you for this quote. Still not clear though. (b) and (c) are conflicting with each other. (b) says it's unlawful to leave guns readily available to children. If so, how could (c) happen?
In order for (c) to occur, one must do (b).
I am lost.
ElGato wrote:Hello Investigator
I started to get into this thing, with the affirmative defense in PC 46.13, (c) (2) lawful defense by the child, and changed my mind, we know what's going on here, best to just leave it be.
Tomcat
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:57 am
by jimlongley
Stupid wrote:
I am lost.
I think that is becoming abundantly obvious.
With little exception TX's CHL is well crafted and clearly written, all you need to do is read it, without interpretive spin or reading between the lines, and follow it.
True, there are a few grey areas, but they do not relate to the subjects you have mentioned.
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:03 pm
by gigag04
vote: delete

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:23 pm
by jimlongley
gigag04 wrote:vote: delete

+1