So there you have it........it's gonna be scarce for a bit, but its trickling out to the public.

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Well, looks like I was a bit premature.....they were listed on GunBroker and the auction ended early. A confirmation with Beretta revealed that no subcompacts have been delivered to any dealers yet. Bummer......got my panties in a bunch over nothing!Liko81 wrote:I've test-fired the full-size PX4 and was less than impressed, especially with the trigger. It's twice as expensive as my Ruger 9mm, larger, not much lighter, and the trigger is stamped operating a very loose-feeling mechanism. I think I'll pass.
But then again I dont think I would trust my life to a $200 gun anyway. But thats just me.age_ranger wrote:I guess if I paid $200 for a Ruger 9mm I might scoff at a $400 price tag.Liko81 wrote:It's twice as expensive as my Ruger 9mm, larger, not much lighter, and the trigger is stamped operating a very loose-feeling mechanism. I think I'll pass.
And me too!Wildscar wrote:But then again I dont think I would trust my life to a $200 gun anyway. But thats just me.age_ranger wrote:I guess if I paid $200 for a Ruger 9mm I might scoff at a $400 price tag.Liko81 wrote:It's twice as expensive as my Ruger 9mm, larger, not much lighter, and the trigger is stamped operating a very loose-feeling mechanism. I think I'll pass.
Some commas were needed. The trigger is formed from stamped metal, and the trigger, and by connection, the firing mechanism felt very sloppy to me even considering I was comparing it to a Ruger, which are not known for crisp pulls. And my range must be trying to shaft me; they were asking for $635 for the PX4 in .45ACP, where my stainless P95 was $350 and a P345 would be $410. Not quite twice as much, but we're still talking hundreds of dollars more for a gun that doesn't feel or fire as good as what I have. More for you.age_ranger wrote: The PX4 trigger definitely needs a little work but once done, it's fantastic. They can be bought for $399 all day and their reliability is impeccable. Not sure what was loose in the firearm you handled and I'm not sure what stamped operating is, but my PX4 wasn't loose at all. In fact, I sold my 92 Elite 1A because I liked the PX4 more. I guess if I paid $200 for a Ruger 9mm I might scoff at a $400 price tag.
--age_ranger wrote:There have been a few sold already on the auction sites and word form the factory is that the first production run has been sold out (mostly to dealers). Looks like after the long wait, its finally hitting the gun shops. I'll be picking one up but will be waiting for the hype to die down this time. This on eis slightly different than its big brother (the PX4) as it has a Browning type tilt barrel instead of the rotating barrel. Accuracy was lauded in early magazine reviews and it boasted 2" groups at 25yds. Maybe that cone shaped barrel has something to do with that. It will also accept the full size PX4 mags by utilizing an adapter that fits ovr the mag. Should be a great pistol if it's anything like the PX4.
So there you have it........it's gonna be scarce for a bit, but its trickling out to the public.