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Reaction to Non-Compliant 30.06 Signs

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:47 pm
by tbranch
This is the follow-up poll for the "Walking through 30.06 signs" thread.

Edited 4th Choice...

Re: Reaction to Non-Compliant 30.06 Signs

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:32 pm
by tbranch
Russell wrote:It really depends on what you mean by non-compliant.

Are we talking about taco cabana non-compliant where the letter sizing is too small, or an obvious poor attempt such as Traders Village's old 4412(e) printed on the back of the receipt?
This poll deals with non-compliant signage such as the reduced sized ones, english only, etc. We're not talking about the ghost-buster kind of sign but attempts to have 30.06 signs that do not meet the requirements of Texas 30.06.

Tom

Edited for typos...sigh...

Re: Reaction to Non-Compliant 30.06 Signs

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:43 pm
by LedJedi
can I have "Respect the owner and ask why they have a sign banning law abiding citizens and advertising that their business and patrons are voluntarily unarmed" ?

that would be my choice.

Re: Reaction to Non-Compliant 30.06 Signs

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:58 pm
by Photoman
We are under no legal obligation to obey non-compliant 30.06 signs.

Yours truly,
Captain Obvious
:txflag:

Re: Reaction to Non-Compliant 30.06 Signs

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:06 pm
by tbranch
LedJedi wrote:can I have "Respect the owner and ask why they have a sign banning law abiding citizens and advertising that their business and patrons are voluntarily unarmed" ?
Led,

I updated the 4th choice. I think this what you're getting at.

Tom

Re: Reaction to Non-Compliant 30.06 Signs

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:20 pm
by Lucky45
I wonder why we still have a 0% category. I am waiting to see the folks that said they would disarm , to start voting.

Re: Reaction to Non-Compliant 30.06 Signs

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:26 pm
by KC5AV
Each situation would have to be decided separately. I can't say for sure that I was never walk past a non-compliant sign. Most times, if time allowed, I'd take my business elsewhere, and then try to contact the owner/management via phone or email.

Luckily, I live in small-town USA, and since I've started actively looking, I have been unable to find even an improperly posted attempt at 30.06.

John

Re: Reaction to Non-Compliant 30.06 Signs

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:36 pm
by shaggydog
KC5AV wrote:Each situation would have to be decided separately.
Exectly correct therefore my vote in the poll is "It Depends".

Case in point - My wife's mother recently had, what we feared at the time was a stroke. My wife called 911 and then called me. I immediatly left work to meet her at the emergency room.

Now, I was fully aware that the hospital was properly posted 30.06 but did I take the time to disarm in my rush to join my wife and MIL in the emergency room? No.

During subsequest visits however (once she was admitted and placed in a room) I did disarm before entering the building.

Re: Reaction to Non-Compliant 30.06 Signs

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:14 pm
by tbranch
shaggydog wrote:Now, I was fully aware that the hospital was properly posted 30.06 but did I take the time to disarm in my rush to join my wife and MIL in the emergency room? No.
While there were mitigating factors, you broke the law since it was a valid 30.06 sign. I can disarm in 20 seconds on the way out of the vehicle. This is a topic for another thread.

This poll is not about valid signs, it's about non-compliant signs. Since the signs do not comply, no law is broken.

Re: Reaction to Non-Compliant 30.06 Signs

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:35 pm
by nitrogen
voted :Respect the Non-Compliant Sign and Do Business Elsewhere
but admittedly thats about 90% of the time.

That only applies (to me) for 30.06 signs, compliant or noncompliant.

Any obviously noncompliant signs (ghostbusters types, etc) I'll feel a bit better about ignoring it.
One that I usually ignore is at my vet; they do a lot of good work with a rescue I volunteer with, and do a great job with our cats, so I give them money, even though tey are obviously "wrong" on the issue.

Re: Reaction to Non-Compliant 30.06 Signs

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:41 pm
by jimlongley
How about another choice: Disrespect the owner and sign, leave, leave them a card letting them know why I am boycotting them and encouraging everyone I know to do the same.

I make no assuptions about the intent of any sign, if they are too stupid to post a proper sign, then they are.

If they want to fake out the anti-gun nuts by posting a non-compliant sign so that CHLs can pass it, then they are stupid, see above.

If they made an error in judgement and posted the wrong sign, then see above.

I see no reason to comply with signs that obviously do not meet the standard established in the law, but I don't see any reasoon to give stupid people business either.

Re: Reaction to Non-Compliant 30.06 Signs

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:42 pm
by Texian
I voted to ignore the non-compliant sign and enter the property. Just to make sure that no one misunderstand, I do not judge a sign non-compliant unless it is clearly and unequivocably so.

Re: Reaction to Non-Compliant 30.06 Signs

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:55 pm
by Doug
I voted Respect the Non-Compliant Sign and Do Business Elsewhere

I am not going to patronize an establishment that still abides by the thought that weapons make people do bad things.

Re: Reaction to Non-Compliant 30.06 Signs

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:49 pm
by Lucky45
Just like I thought, :waiting: after all that yakity-yak and I don't see that many people DISARMING. I respect their intent.... :bigmouth PLEASE!!!!