Race Track.......

[AEA]

Need some quick advice please......

I know the rule book says a "racetrack" is prohibited:
PC 46.03 (4) On the premises of a racetrack; or...........

I assume that this was written for the purpose of a Horse Race Track where betting is taking place.
Does it also mean a Car Race Track (1/4 mile Drag Track) where no betting is allowed?

I am going to a Drag Strip in Lufkin, Texas this weekend and would like to be compliant.
But, I hope there is no prohibition under this Law for a Drag Strip.

Thanks

[WildBill]

Wouldn't this be a professional sporting event?

[Charles L. Cotton]

You are correct about racetracks; it applies to only those tracks that provide for betting - i.e. horse and dog tracks. But Wildbill is right about professional sporting events being prohibited locations. If the drivers can win prize money, then it's a professional event. If the races are for bragging rights, then it's not a professional event.

Chas.

[AEA]

Wouldn't this be a professional sporting event?

It could be on other days, but this particular weekend is only for non professionals. It is a spectator sport non the less, but no professionals will be there.

There is no prize money, but there are trophies given out for the winners. It is just for the Public (and my car club) and no Professional Drivers or betting (parimutuel) will be there.

EDIT: Found out there is prize money - but no Professionals.

[longtooth]

Need some quick advice please......

I know the rule book says a "racetrack" is prohibited:
PC 46.03 (4) On the premises of a racetrack; or...........

I assume that this was written for the purpose of a Horse Race Track where betting is taking place.
Does it also mean a Car Race Track (1/4 mile Drag Track) where no betting is allowed?

I am going to a Drag Strip in Lufkin, Texas this weekend and would like to be compliant.
But, I hope there is no prohibition under this Law for a Drag Strip.

Thanks

You said in Lufkin. I am not really up on the drag race scene but know of no track in Lufkin. If you are referring to the track South of Lufkin on the Ryans Chapel rd then that is amature only. Several of our church members go there often. I do not know about security, wands, or anything like that.

[AEA]

Thanks LT.
It is Pine Valley Raceway.......
I just checked their website and it is the one on Ryan Chapel Rd.

Thanks again!

[longtooth]

That's it.

[AEA]

Well........
There still may be a problem.........

There is money paid out. Although it is paid out to amateurs and not professionals...........
A look at their website showed that there is prize money.

So, Charles, is it a Professional Sporting Event because money is paid out even though there are no professionals there?

EDIT: Well a further look at their web site under "General Rules" it says "No Guns Allowed".
So, I will go and if they are correctly posted 30.06 I will comply (normally I wouldn't even go inside, but this is an event I need to make).
If it is only a "ghostbuster" sign, or otherwise incorrectly posted, I will remain armed.

I do not think the "No Guns Allowed" on their website General Rules is sufficient legal notice.

Thanks all!

[longtooth]

Glad that is your decision. I live here & would not hesitate to go armed until I saw a compliant sign.

Also I do not know about modern day definitions & never raced a car at all.
I do know when I was amature rodeoing we pd entry fees & won pot money but we sure were not pros.
I know. Times have change.

[AEA]

Thanks again LT.

[frankie_the_yankee]

I don't think a little prize money makes it a professional event.

They pay out small amounts of prize money at the TX State Bullseye Championships up in Dallas every year, but no one would consider that to be a professional sporting event. I think this club drag racing thing sounds pretty similar.

[jimlongley]

I would think that prize money would not solely serve to qualify an event as "professional," if it does then I have been a professional shooterr (in several different disciplines), professional drag racer, professional stock car driver, professional bowler, professional soft ball player, and professional fire department drill team racer.

I would expect the definition of professional to include someone who makes their primary living from the sport, thus rodeo events where prize money is competed for as the main source of income, or someone who gets paid to do what they do, as in salaried.

[NcongruNt]

I posted in a marathon thread a while back, and in my research I found that "professional" sports are not defined in the TPC, but they are defined on a federal level. In that case, professional or amateur status is defined by the governing body in charge of the sport.

I'll see if I can find the specific definition I posted here in a minute. If I find it, I'll add the info to this thread.

[EDIT - found it!]
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... rt#p147380

And here it is:

In the United States, under the provisions of the Ted Stevens Olympic and Amateur Sports Act, the definition of an amateur athlete is up to the national governing body for each sport.

The text of the Act can be found here:

http://www.olympic-usa.org/12699_12720.htm

[5111]

The wife and I will also be at that same event, and unless they are 30.06 we will be packing (assuming that the mailman makes it here with her CHL tomorrow).

[KBCraig]

In sporting events, you're "professional" if you receive any money, even if it's split-the-pot prize money.

Just look at how many NCAA athletes have lost their scholarships for accepting money or anything else of value, except for working a bonafide job.