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hand positioning on snubnose/J-frame revolvers

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:02 pm
by yerasimos
For those of you who like to shoot short-barreled revolvers: how do you like to position your hands relative to the stocks/grips? In particular, what are your suggestions for thumb and finger placement? What are the most important things to remember for getting and keeping a solid grip on these beasts for consistent shot placement?

I am working with a Centennial J-frame, and have been experimenting mostly with high thumbs (above/behind the cylinder release) with some degree of success, but the recoil/muzzle flip eventually bites the inside of my thumb. Admittedly, my calluses need some more work. :oops: Cranking the thumb down hard, below the cylinder release, did not seem very secure because it seemed to pull my hand further down away from the bore axis and my shots seemed to disperse more---not to mention the extra unnecessary tactile "input". Indexing the thumb close to/against the knurled cylinder release seems like a recipe for tearing up the thumb further, so I have avoided this.

Upon first blush, the "high-performance grip" (support-side hand cammed forward, hands as high as possible relative to the bore axis, ~60/40 support/strong side pressure distribution, etc) that is recommended for use with flat-sided semi-automatics does not seem like a great fit with the smaller revolver, due to the revolver's more irregular surfaces, rotating cylinder, hot gases venting past the cylinder face, and lack of a tang where the thumb-index finger webbing can be pushed, among other reasons. Is there a "Tao" for gripping a snubnose revolver that is generally accepted---much as most top competition shooters shoot their semi-automatic pistols using essentially the same technique?

I have read that trigger control is truly the core skill associated with mastering double-action revolvers, but I would like to get my grip correct before accumulating more reps on the trigger control aspect.

I am seeking more of a "software" answer than a gadget solution, though I also realize that beggars cannot be choosers.

Any suggestions or ideas?

Re: hand positioning on snubnose/J-frame revolvers

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:28 pm
by Skiprr
Here are some thoughts from "Mr. Wheelgun" himself: http://www.shootingusa.com/PRO_TIPS/MIC ... ulek2.html.

Re: hand positioning on snubnose/J-frame revolvers

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:04 pm
by jbirds1210
FWIW I found that Miculek's recommendation for gripping the little j-frame worked very well for me on a 642....locks that little thing in like a vice. I never practiced with it enough to apply the grip automatically.

I traded the gun. In all fairness....I hate all revolvers equally. :biggrinjester:

Re: hand positioning on snubnose/J-frame revolvers

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:36 pm
by DMG
Jason, you certainly know how t hurt a guy! David G.

Re: hand positioning on snubnose/J-frame revolvers

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:43 pm
by jbirds1210
DMG wrote:Jason, you certainly know how t hurt a guy! David G.
David-

I stand corrected. I like your revolver (so long as you are shooting it) :cheers2:

Jason

Re: hand positioning on snubnose/J-frame revolvers

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:54 pm
by TxD
DMG wrote:Jason, you certainly know how t hurt a guy! David G.
It's OK, David.
Jason is just a tad grumpy 'cause "Little Nick" whomped him
at PSC last month. :razz: :razz:

Re: hand positioning on snubnose/J-frame revolvers

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:57 pm
by The Annoyed Man
I hold my 642 high on the grip like that. It works pretty well for me, and I found it much easier to control the gun and get it quickly back on target when I started holding it that way. I also shoot it more to point of aim when I hold it high up.

Re: hand positioning on snubnose/J-frame revolvers

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:34 pm
by jbirds1210
TxD wrote:
DMG wrote:Jason, you certainly know how t hurt a guy! David G.
It's OK, David.
Jason is just a tad grumpy 'cause "Little Nick" whomped him
at PSC last month. :razz: :razz:
:rolll
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Re: hand positioning on snubnose/J-frame revolvers

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:45 am
by CompVest
I thought Jason's gun ( a glock) whomped him!

Re: hand positioning on snubnose/J-frame revolvers

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:17 am
by TxD
CompVest wrote:I thought Jason's gun ( a glock) whomped him!
Yowbut, I would never kick a man when his gun is down. :biggrinjester:

On a more positive note, this is a great example of why it is a good idea to
occasionally shoot IDPA with your carry equipment. Things happen under the stress
of competition that don't necessarily show up in a more relaxed atmosphere.

Back to topic. Another benefit of a high handhold on a revolver is that it positions the trigger finger to rotate the trigger around the trigger pin in a more efficient manner.