How will people in D.C.....

[Venus Pax]

go about exercising their recognized right under the Second Amendment?

Dad & I were talking about this on the phone tonight. How do they go about purchasing a handgun? Can they get one from a dealer in Virginia? Are they going to have trouble during the purchase since they don't live in a state?

How do they go about getting their gun registered and themselves licensed, since the Supreme Court said that they are still subject to these restrictions?

[AFJailor]

Not sure how the process is going to work, as far as I have heard it has not been ironed out yet. But if I were an entrepreneur I would say that now would be a good time to go open a gun shop in DC.

[ttorion]

I'm wondering how they're going to get the gun from the gun shop to their home since Fenty said in their press conference that handguns outside the home were still going to be illegal.

[agbullet2k1]

I'm wondering how they're going to get the gun from the gun shop to their home since Fenty said in their press conference that handguns outside the home were still going to be illegal.

I think they're putting a process in place for simply transporting them. I'm sure "unloaded and disassembled" will be in there somewhere.

[flintknapper]

I'm wondering how they're going to get the gun from the gun shop to their home since Fenty said in their press conference that handguns outside the home were still going to be illegal.

I think they're putting a process in place for simply transporting them. I'm sure "unloaded and disassembled" will be in there somewhere.

More likely: Unloaded, Disassembled, Locked in a case, Escorted, Registered, Taxed, Filmed, Filed and Frowned upon.

Washington D.C. (America's disgrace)!

[T3hK1w1]

This is what I've found so far. Someone on THR linked it.
http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/view.asp?a= ... 47431&pm=1
The DC PD's take on things.

Notice that Semi-auto handguns are still banned. Does the DCPD think that they are not "In Common Use"???

[USMC-COL]

The DC Chief of Police has drafted draconian measures to register a firearm in DC (pasted below). For handguns, it looks like revolvers only. No pistols of any kind. For those that do not have a handgun, you can only legally (by federal law) purchase a handgun in the jurisdiction you reside in. That means that if you reside in DC, you can only purchase a handgun in DC. According to my sources, there is only one known person in DC with an FFL (dealer's license). That person is part of the Brady Campaign (as in Sarah Brady) - the organization trying to eliminate all firearms in private hands. That person has never sold a gun nor will ever sell a gun to anyone. They just wanted to lock up the opportunity for anyone to get a firearm in DC. A person who has never had a sale is not supposed to be able to maintain an FFL, but politics being politics, ... Go figure. DC will wind up back in court. DC will go broke.

_________________________________________________________________________________________
DC Gun Laws:

How Do I Register a Firearm in the District?
To register a firearm, residents must report to the Firearms Registration Section of the Metropolitan Police
Department, located at 300 Indiana Avenue, NW. The application process may take up to 14 days. The cost for registering each firearm is $13, plus $35 to process fingerprints.
Applicants must:
Be 21 years of age
Complete a firearms application
Bring proof of residency (e.g., D.C. Driver’s License)
Bring two (2) passport-sized front facing photos
Be fingerprinted
Pass a 20-question multiple choice test
Complete a notarized firearms eligibility statement

Important Things to Remember
When transporting your firearm, it must be unloaded, wrapped securely or placed in a gun case on the back
seat of your car. If you are stopped by the police, you must immediately tell the officer that you are en route to the Firearms Registration Section to register the firearm.

The gun dealer will not give you the firearm until you return with the “Firearms Application� stamped
“APPROVED� by the Metropolitan Police Department, Firearms Registration Section. If you have possession
of the firearm(s), you must IMMEDIATELY bring it to the Firearms Registration Section, located at 300
Indiana Avenue, NW.

ONLY rifles, shotguns and revolvers may be
registered in the District of Columbia. The following
firearms may not be registered in the District: sawed-off
shotguns, short-barreled rifles, machine guns and semiautomatic handguns.

[T3hK1w1]

[jimlongley]

. . .
Important Things to Remember
When transporting your firearm, it must be unloaded, wrapped securely or placed in a gun case on the back
seat of your car. If you are stopped by the police, you must immediately tell the officer that you are en route to the Firearms Registration Section to register the firearm.

The gun dealer will not give you the firearm until you return with the “Firearms Application� stamped
“APPROVED� by the Metropolitan Police Department, Firearms Registration Section. If you have possession
of the firearm(s), you must IMMEDIATELY bring it to the Firearms Registration Section, located at 300
Indiana Avenue, NW.

Sounds like the old NY State pistol permit law, you had to have the serial number of the gun to register it, and the dealer couldn't legally give you the serial number unless the gun was fully paid for, meaning that the gun sat at the dealer until the permit was finally acted upon, and if your status changed, such as you moved (and out of state was worse), got married, or died, etc, the gun was turned over to the NY State Police and if it was not properly claimed within three weeks it was destroyed.

This DC reg says you must take the gun you are registering to the registration section, but that the dealer can't give you the firearm until you have registered it.

Poorly worded rules are sure to generate confusion, and then DC can point to the failure of the populace to obey them as they tighten things up.

[srothstein]

I fully expect someone to sue DC again in the very near future. These rules just fly in the face of the decision, especially the ban on semi-automatic handguns. The court would simply need to be shown what the current issue sidearm is for the military.

But, just to clarify, the rules do not require the weapon to be brought to the police if you are buying it. In the instructions, it says to report to the police. It then says the dealer will not give you the weapon until you bring back the approved form (which implies there is a dealer and he has agreed to these rules). It only then says if you are already in possession of the weapon you must bring it with you. The confusing part is the instructions for how to transport the weapon before it says when you need to bring it in.

How much do you want to bet that they file charges on someone for bringing in a weapon they already own? After all, it is proof that they were in violation of the law up until this point. The ownership would not be questioned (unconstitutional law void from beginning), but how they acquired it might be.

[Oldgringo]

Thank God, and our forebears, for the RKBA in the United States of America !

The District of Columbia is not a state. Isn't it populated largely by transients (Congresspeople, Presidents, Judges, Lobbyists, etc.) and a few other sorta' permanent residents either feeding at, or fed by, the public troth ? Why would anyone not fed by the government want to live there?

Do they vote in DC, and if so:

Who put the people in charge that passed the various gun laws ?

How did the obviously wrong gun laws stay on the books some 30 years ?

Why did it take a Supreme Court ruling to correct an obvious wrong in a non state?

BTW, I wonder if Charles Schummer, Mayor Bloomfield, Dianne Feinstein, the guy in Detroit, et al, have carry permits or if they rely on their taxpayer paid bodyguards for protection?

[The Annoyed Man]

BTW, I wonder if Charles Schummer, Mayor Bloomfield, Dianne Feinstein, the guy in Detroit, et al, have carry permits or if they rely on their taxpayer paid bodyguards for protection?

I've lived most of my life until now in California. Dianne Feinstein used to have a carry permit, although I'm not sure if she still does. In any case, when busted on it after pushing gun control measures, she made a great show of turning in her revolver. However, the whole time she had her carry permit, she was insisting on disarming the people, and she only made a show of turning in her own gun when the story got out that she was a hypocrite with both a gun and a permit to carry it.

I hate her.

[bdickens]

Oldgringo:
Remember how some years ago the mayor of DC gor busted for crack? Remember how he went to jail? Remember how he got elected back into office after he got out? There's your answer.

[HerbM]

Oldgringo:
Remember how some years ago the mayor of DC gor busted for crack? Remember how he went to jail? Remember how he got elected back into office after he got out? There's your answer.

Marion Barry. Got busted, convicted in Federal court. Got re-elected afterwards, first to the DC Council then back to Mayor. He was on video tape too, so it isn't like they believed he was innocent -- they just didn't care.

His recent history from Wikipedia includes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Barry

2005 Guilty Plea
On October 28, 2005, Barry pleaded guilty to the misdemeanor charges stemming from an IRS investigation. At the mandatory drug testing at that hearing, he tested positive for cocaine and marijuana. On March 9, 2006, he was sentenced to three years probation for misdemeanor charges of failing to pay federal and local taxes, and continues to receive drug counseling.[10][11]
Wilgoren, Debbi; Woodlee, Yolanda. "Barry Sentenced to Three Years of Probation", The Washington Post, 2006-03-10, p. A01.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00848.htmlWoodlee, Yolanda; Leonnig, Carol D. "Barry Tested Positive for Cocaine Use In the Fall", The Washington Post, 2006-01-11, p. A01.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02018.html
[edit] 2006 Traffic mishap
On September 10, 2006, Barry was stopped by Secret Service Uniformed Division police officers and was charged with driving under the influence, operating a vehicle while impaired, driving an unregistered vehicle, and misuse of temporary tags. He was acquitted of the drunk driving charges on June 13, 2007.
"Former D.C. Mayor Marion Barry Acquitted on Drunk Driving, Related Charges", Associated Press, FOX News, 2007-06-13.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,282034,00.html

As far as I can see, Barry still serves on the Council of the District of Columbia, representing Ward Eight. He was re-elected in 2004 with 95% of he vote in his district (58% over the incumbent in the primary).

He is a supporter of Mayor Fenty -- which might explain some of the problems in DC.

[Venus Pax]

Since D.C. isn't really a state, can the residents of D.C. purchase from a dealer in Virginia?

How is it that only one FFL is operating in DC, and that it's a Brady supporter? How can an area be limited to ONE FFL?

If D.C. residents are limited to only purchasing guns in D.C., and the district's only FFL refuses to sell them a handgun, what steps would they have to take to file charges against this FFL and/or the District of Columbia for denying their RKBA? What is the probability that they would win?

I really feel for these people; Heller may have helped their case, but didn't completely solve the problem.