So I walked in to do an address change at our local municipal building and saw a courtroom in the back??? I guess I didn't really notice it the last time I was there a few years ago, as I didn't have my CHL back then and couldn't have cared less.
Anyway, I did a u-turn, went back to my car and disarmed, went back in the building and took care of my business.
There's windows into the courtroom and there was no court in session at the time. I'm guessing they have court in session there once a week or so to hear anybody contesting a traffic ticket or something. Who knows?
So because this courtroom is on the premises, I can't carry in the building at all, right?
Courthouse in Municipal Building
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What city, town?
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As long as there is no 30.06 signs and you don't go into the courtroom itself you should be fine. The 30.06 sign while it really doesn't have any validity, as long as there is a court room involved is a challange I wouldn't mess with. Good idea to make sure it is concealed well in any case.
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The law states...
PC 46.03 (3) on the premises of any government court or offices utilized by the court
Section (f) further states...
It is not a defense to prosecution under this section that the actor possessed a handgun and was licensed to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code
PC 46.03 (3) on the premises of any government court or offices utilized by the court
Section (f) further states...
It is not a defense to prosecution under this section that the actor possessed a handgun and was licensed to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code
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Mesquite's city building holds court once a week for tickets, it also is 30.06 posted.
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I completely agree, but like I said I wouldn't challenge this one. The police chiefs, sheriffs, prosecutors and judges all drink at the same bars, tend the same fundraisers, and belong to the same party in this neck of the woods. A proper 30.06 sign tells me they might be serious about pushing this. I'm no guinea pig.Russell wrote:Liberty wrote:As long as there is no 30.06 signs and you don't go into the courtroom itself you should be fine. The 30.06 sign while it really doesn't have any validity, as long as there is a court room involved is a challange I wouldn't mess with. Good idea to make sure it is concealed well in any case.
The 30.06 sign would have *no* change on rather or not a courthouse makes a multi-use building completely off limits, as long as the entire building is owned or leased by a governmental entity. Zip, zero, nada.
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It's worth pointing out that a 30.06 notice is valid in a city building if it's posted at a "meeting of a governmental entity".
The City of Nash (pop. 2,200) has a municipal building that is City Hall, Police Department, (volunteer) Fire Department, and municipal court. And by "court", I use the term loosely: I was a "juror" about 14 years ago, when someone challenged a speeding ticket (but then didn't show up for trial; guilty in absentia). I don't know that there has been a trial since then. Our judge is pastor of a local church two blocks from City Hall. I don't want to guess if the parsonage counts as "offices utilized by a court".
The courtroom and city council chambers are the same room. When it's a courtroom, it's off-limits. When it's used for council meetings ("governmental entity"), it's only off-limits if posted 30.06.
I don't have any worries about my local folks giving grief to a CHL. Other small cities with similar situations might be an entirely different story.
The City of Nash (pop. 2,200) has a municipal building that is City Hall, Police Department, (volunteer) Fire Department, and municipal court. And by "court", I use the term loosely: I was a "juror" about 14 years ago, when someone challenged a speeding ticket (but then didn't show up for trial; guilty in absentia). I don't know that there has been a trial since then. Our judge is pastor of a local church two blocks from City Hall. I don't want to guess if the parsonage counts as "offices utilized by a court".
The courtroom and city council chambers are the same room. When it's a courtroom, it's off-limits. When it's used for council meetings ("governmental entity"), it's only off-limits if posted 30.06.
I don't have any worries about my local folks giving grief to a CHL. Other small cities with similar situations might be an entirely different story.