BART COP

[casingpoint]

The guy shot a cop over an assault warrant?

That's as stupid as this:
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Maybe two wrongs make a right.

[fickman]

[quote="casingpoint"]The guy shot a cop over an assault warrant?
I'm not sure the point of this post, but every way I take it grinds against me wrong. Are you suggesting that because of a possible bad cop in Oakland, maybe this incident in Dallas has evened things out?

I have a close family member on the gang unit in Irving, and this story hits very close to home. I can only imagine the grief of the family members and the DPD family. May God comfort those who mourn and bless our men and women in blue.

[casingpoint]

If the cops lied initially about who they were when asked, and asking who's knocking on your front door in Big D is a good question to know the answer to, then why would the folks inside believe they were cops on the second go-around?

These cops could just as well be home invasion robbers. Wasn't to many days ago somewhere in TX that some HIR's were dressed as cops and yelling, "Police" as they stormed a private residence.

It isn't going to take even some dofus public defender long to figure out his/her client thought it was brigands at the door and that he was defending himself and his homies when he fired his gun. And because the cops lied when first asked to identify themselves, a jury could find merit in the foregoing. May not much, but the defense just needs to create, not prove, something less than beyond reasonable doubt in the minds of some, not all, jury members.

As the old legal maxim goes, "He who comes into equity must come with clean hands."

[casingpoint]

Are you suggesting that because of a possible bad cop in Oakland, maybe this incident in Dallas has evened things out?

Of course not. Just being sarcastic. Both incidents simply illustrate there are compulsive idiots on both sides of the shield.

[Keith B]

Are you suggesting that because of a possible bad cop in Oakland, maybe this incident in Dallas has evened things out?

Of course not. Just being sarcastic. Both incidents simply illustrate there are compulsive idiots on both sides of the shield.

Don't be too quick to throw stones on the Oakland incident. I am not sure the BART cop was being compulsive. There is speculation by some experts that he thought he had grabbed his taser and grabbed his gun. When you watch the video, you can see the look of surprise on his face at what had just happened. Either way, it was a bad mistake that he will have to live with the rest of his life.

[casingpoint]

Poor choice of words.

Yes, the 22-year-old BART officer could have well thought he was firing his taser. It will be interesting to find out if he is left handed, because he drew with the right hand, which is where the taser should be on lefties. I notice he did have a lot of trouble getting the gun out of the holster.

However, I saw no need to tase the guy. Several cops had him down and handcuffed. In view of all the recent publicity about the potentially harmful effects of tasers, including death, a decision under the circumstances was a wrong decision. There have been several instances of police officers shooting suspects with their handguns when they mistakenly thought it was a taser.

But one fact stands out above all others concerning the Oakland case. If the guy hadn't copped such an attitude and then violently resisted, in all probability he would not have gotten shot.

[fickman]

Don't be too quick to throw stones on the Oakland incident. I am not sure the BART cop was being compulsive. There is speculation by some experts that he thought he had grabbed his taser and grabbed his gun. When you watch the video, you can see the look of surprise on his face at what had just happened. Either way, it was a bad mistake that he will have to live with the rest of his life.

That's what I think happened. . . it's the only thing that makes sense. Even so, the cop is in a lot of trouble. He'll probably be charged with 2nd Degree Murder or Manslaughter - both of which can allow for an "accident" if I understand correctly. I feel for him if it was a mistake. His face turned white as a sheet as soon as the gun fired, and it looks like he went into shock. . . he probably realized that his life just changed forever.

I can't believe that - if he was a bad cop - that he chose this minute, in front of that many officers, in front of that many witnesses, to murder a suspect in cold blood. It could be. . . but it doesn't seem to add up.

The problem, as I said, is that even if it was a mistake, there are laws against accidentally killing somebody.