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Referring back to another thread:
Flatland2D wrote:Btw, I've spent a few hours checking out your Free State Project link in your sig. Except for my few objections to the independent philosophy, I think it's a really cool idea. I'm very interested to see how it turns out. I don't think I'd ever be able to leave Texas though!
Here are a couple of articles for pro-gun folks to consider. First, from Gun Week:

From Gun Week April 10 Page 12

Free State Project Beckons
San Fran Gun Ban Last Straw For Gunowners Now NH Bound

by Dave Workman
Senior Editor

The much-debated Free State Project may have gotten no better boost over the past several months than it has from the voters in San Francisco, CA, who passed a gun ban in the city last Fall which is now being challenged in court by the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF), National Rifle Association (NRA), and others.

The ban has convinced gunowners not only that they aren’t wanted by what many perceive as a society dominated by social bigots in the “City by the Bay,� but also that it’s time to take their lives where their presence will be appreciated. The Free State Project is a grassroots movement in which pro-gun, Libertarian-minded people are bidding farewell to the lives they
know, and heading for the Granite State, where the motto “Live Free or Die� carries a special meaning to them.

The Free State Project’s goal is to attract as many as 20,000 people to live in New Hampshire, which was picked due to its low crime rate, and social and political environment. It’s a small state with a small government, and Free Staters want to keep it that way.

San Francisco resident Christie Cole and her husband are planning the move to New Hampshire “within the year.� Formerly a small gun dealer, this 26-year resident of San Francisco told Gun Week that “I guess I should have seen the writing on the wall in the mid- to late-1990s.�

The gun ban vote was “the last in a long string of things� that has forced the Coles to the realization that, in a city that prides itself on diversity, “their kind� just isn’t welcome.

“I guess it’s true what they say that if you give them an inch, they take a mile,� Cole said. “It’s the slippery slope. Once you give in on something, it’s just going to be worse. I don’t like not being able to defend myself in my own home.�

Zoning Issue
The gun ban is not the first time San Francisco micro-managers have done things to alter Cole’s lifestyle, but it will be the last. A few years ago, she recalled, her activities as an amateur photographer came to an abrupt halt when the city arbitrarily decided that her home darkroom, because it had a sink with running water, was an illegal third living unit in a home located in a residential zone that does not allow multiple living quarters.

When the Coles were small-time gun dealers, working gun shows in the San Francisco area, the required paperwork volume was piled ever higher. It became untenable, and the Coles gave that up. She now realizes that “the idea was to put us out of business.�

A native of Pittsburgh, PA, Christie Cole “loves� the San Francisco climate and she is “a little worried� about moving to the Northeast Snow Belt, but conversely, she is “excited about the idea (of living) in an area where your home is your castle.�

According to Brian Gottstein, communications coordinator for the Free State Project, this is a movement of citizens who believe in limited government. The goal is to attract 20,000 people to move to New Hampshire, which was selected as a new home for Free Staters because of its small government, low taxes and gun laws.

“Gun laws in New Hampshire were a key reason for its selection as the Free State,� he explained. “Any resident without a criminal record can openly carry firearms, and permits for concealed carrying are available to any resident passing a background check.�

Gottstein noted that almost 10% of the project’s participants so far have come from California.

“Many are leaving to escape the state’s excessive regulation and taxation,� he acknowledged. “Some are leaving especially because of the repressive gun laws.�

Already Moved
Include among those already out of the Golden State and now residing in New Hampshire former San Franciscan Sandy Pierre. This 37-year-old lived in San Francisco when she was in her 20s, and then moved to nearby Oakland, which was like jumping from the frying pan into the fire in terms of a crime-ridden environment, she explained.

“When I was living in San Francisco a woman was raped outside my apartment and I heard the whole thing,� she recalled. “I wanted to go outside (but) the only weapon I had was a baseball bat. None of my neighbors went to the woman’s assistance either.�

Another of her neighbors was carjacked at gunpoint. Pierre decided it was time to leave California in her rearview mirror. She made the cross-country trip alone.

A resident of New Hampshire since May 2005, Pierre became interested in the Free State Project about two years ago.

“I really like the fact that New Hampshire offers a lot more personal freedom,� she said. “I was in grad school when I moved out here (and now) I work in a software company.�

Pierre acknowledged that she did not own a gun while living in California, primarily because “I’ve always hated the idea of having my name in a government data base, and I didn’t used to be interested in guns. I had a pretty typical liberal attitude that guns were only for policemen but that started changing a few years ago.�

Realizations
Because of the crimes in her neighborhood, Pierre decided that she should at least learn how to handle a firearm. Then came another realization.

“I had never touched a gun in my life,� she said. “Nobody in my social circle had guns.�

Because of a peculiar San Francisco law, she could not legally go to a gun range to try shooting unless she was accompanied by another person. Ostensibly, this regulation is designed to prevent someone from committing suicide at an indoor gun range with a rental firearm. She actually had to place a personal ad in the local newspaper seeking someone who would go with her to the gun range.

Born in Rhode Island but raised in California, Pierre recalled a feeling of social isolation in San Francisco because of her Libertarian philosophy.

“Up here,� she said, “my neighbors are so different; some of them carry guns 24 hours a day. It is nice and the crime rate is so much lower.�

Among the influences that convinced her there is a better life outside of California was the Mel Gibson film “The Patriot.�

“It used to be completely normal for kids to be handling guns,� she said.

Pierre and several of her friends are going to take a firearms safety course shortly, and the next step will be to buy a gun. She has no plans to become a serious gun collector, but having a firearm without all the red tape required under California law will be another step toward self-reliance.

Nothing to Change
Free Staters Irena and Denis Goddard are not gunowners, but they are not ruling it out, and Irena admitted to Gun Week that California’s ever-tightening restrictions on gunowners’ rights is one factor that led to their move to the Concord, NH, area last June.

Born in the Czech Republic and raised in New York, at 26 Irena moved to San Francisco where she eventually met Denis and they were married. They now have a 2-year-old son.

The thought of moving from San Francisco to New Hampshire did not bother them. They were looking for a simpler, less regulated life, and they found that it already exists in the Granite State. There is literally nothing to change.

“We decided we didn’t want to live there anymore,� she said of California. “The politics were just getting ridiculous; the fact (of) so much spending, so many social programs, so many things we did not support.�

Denis is a software developer for Oracle, while Irena has decided to take a couple of years off work to be at home with their son.

‘What’s Next?’
“We did not leave exclusively because of the gun ban, but it was one of the many reasons why we left,� she said. California was passing laws, taking away liberties. Gun ownership is in the Constitution and we started thinking ‘My god, what’s next?’ �

Noting that Denis “was always a Libertarian and I was a Republican when we met,� Irena gradually came to realize that she had a strong Libertarian streak as well.

“We don’t want the government to be telling us what to do,� she said.

They found the Free State Project one night on the Internet, and began researching the effort.

While she is not a gunowner, Irena has no qualms about people owning firearms. She believes gunowners are more responsible, and their presence makes for “a more polite society.� Additionally, she isn’t the slightest bit alarmed that her neighbors might be carrying concealed handguns.

“I get along with my neighbors,� she said.

Hopeful that the future in New Hampshire will be far better than the past they left in California, Irena told Gun Week she feels right at home in her new surroundings.

“I have met many New Hampshire residents and they are ‘us,’ � she observed.

More information on the Free State Project is available by visiting the group’s website at: http://www.FreeStateProject.org.
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Next article, from Concealed Carry Magazine:
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http://www.concealedcarrymag.com

Volume 2, Issue 4, May 23, 2005, Page 16

The Constitution is a Gun
by Boris Karpa

Final paragraph:

"Just like anything else that is important - whether your safety, your health, or anything else important in your life - your freedom needs your participation. Ask an expert, and they will tell you that the biggest asset in politics is activists - people ready to detach themselves from their chairs and do something about the matter. Jason Sorens, who teaches Political Science at Yale, founded the Free State Project on that very principle (you can find out about the Project at http://www.freestateproject.org). While certainly nobody can demand activism from you, remember that the only person who you can truly rely on to protect yourself in a gunfight is you. That is, after all, why people own guns. If you don't trust other people (the police) to protect your life, why do you trust others to protect your liberty, when you don't?"

Boris Karpa is a writer, translator, system administrator, armorer, and civil rights activist from Israel.

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(Boris is also a member of the FSP, I might add.)
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For those of you who might assume that all of New England is awash with liberal yankees, it's important to understand that New Hampshire is an island. The Kennedys' Massachusetts to the south, Ben & Jerry's Vermont to the west, Stephen King's Maine to the east, and socialist French Canada to the north. By way of drawing a line in the sand, the governor recently signed a bill that will add General Stark's famous motto, "Live free or die!" to the welcome signs at the state borders.

And to illustrate the libertarian nature of the state, those signs won't cost taxpayers a penny, since a state representative who owns a graphics company has donated the signs. :grin:

"The Granite State" might as well refer to the hardness of their resolve to not be overtaken by big government, as to the rocky hills and mountains.

I understand why people like Texas. I understand not being willing to give up on her quite yet. But, I've watched helplessly as local government has gone wild, regulating everything from parking my travel trailer in my driveway, to grilling hamburgers in my back yard. (My town recently enacted an outdoor burning ordinance aimed at burning brush and leaves, but which inadvertently bans lighting charcoal in my grill. Likewise, to deal with some trash with relatives "visiting" for months on end by setting up miniature trailer parks, they banned hooking up travel trailers; they didn't aim at me, but they hit me nonetheless!)

There are so many issues coming at us hot and heavy, that liberty lovers can't even begin to keep up with them all. Diluted, we can do nothing. Concentrated, we have a chance for one state to stand up and declare, "Hell, no!" to the National Animal Identification System, Real-ID (NAIS for humans), abuse of eminent domain, "free speech zones", and other affronts to the Constitution that we love.

If you're fed up with having to ask permission to water your lawn or enclose your garage or shoot squirrels on your own property, if you'd like to be free to openly carry a handgun on your hip with no license, if you'd like to carry concealed with no more hassle than a $10 license that's good for 4 years (must-issue within 14 days), then take a moment to consider New Hampshire.

If you're going to vacation out of state in the next year or two, then please consider New Hampshire as a destination. We'll be going for the 2006 PorcFest. If you love liberty, join us!

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KBCraig wrote:For those of you who might assume that all of New England is awash with liberal yankees, it's important to understand that New Hampshire is an island. The Kennedys' Massachusetts to the south, Ben & Jerry's Vermont to the west, Stephen King's Maine to the east, and socialist French Canada to the north. By way of drawing a line in the sand, the governor recently signed a bill that will add General Stark's famous motto, "Live free or die!" to the welcome signs at the state borders.

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OTOH, Vermont did originate "Vermont style carry"

And they both suffer from something that is one of my ultimate reasons for leaving the northeast - SNOW!!!!
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jimlongley wrote:And they both suffer from something that is one of my ultimate reasons for leaving the northeast - SNOW!!!!
I've lived with "real" snow, in Germany, and I've lived in Arkansas and Texas.

I've concluded that I'd rather have three feet of snow than 35 degrees and raining. I've spent days in the field at single digit and subzero temperatures, and wasn't nearly so cold as I am on one of our "winter" days, when it is raining and/or sleeting, hovering right around the freezing mark.

For those who complain about snow, I'll be glad to send a temperature comparison this July, when it's 105 here and 78 there. :grin:

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I gave my wife the link to this thread. General Stark was her great-great-wayback grandfather. She now wants "Live free or die" as a sign out front. I'm trying to talk her down to just a doormat.

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Moved from the mid-west when I was 15 to the Gulf Coast. I can't leave now, I start to dry out and crack. Besides Texas has the death penalty, no state tax and both my Ex's live in Texas...... :)

I guess if N.H. gets full send them our way! I'll be here in God's Country.
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KBCraig wrote:
jimlongley wrote:And they both suffer from something that is one of my ultimate reasons for leaving the northeast - SNOW!!!!
I've lived with "real" snow, in Germany, and I've lived in Arkansas and Texas.

I've concluded that I'd rather have three feet of snow than 35 degrees and raining. I've spent days in the field at single digit and subzero temperatures, and wasn't nearly so cold as I am on one of our "winter" days, when it is raining and/or sleeting, hovering right around the freezing mark.

For those who complain about snow, I'll be glad to send a temperature comparison this July, when it's 105 here and 78 there. :grin:

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Twenty years of climbing phone poles in upstate NY (WAY north of NY City, up to the Canadian border) and having worked in the snow on the 15th of may and the 15th of October and all winter dates in between, there is nothing you can tell me about snow, I never want to see any again.

I'll take too hot over too cold any time.

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Diode wrote:Besides Texas has ... no state tax
How would you like no state income tax and no sales tax?

The only general tax in NH is property tax, and it's not much higher than in Texas. NH has the lowest tax burden in the U.S., other than Alaska.

Not to mention great hunting and fishing... You can shoot whitetail in NH, but when's the last time you took a moose in Texas? :grin:
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KBCraig wrote:
Diode wrote:Besides Texas has ... no state tax
How would you like no state income tax and no sales tax?

The only general tax in NH is property tax, and it's not much higher than in Texas. NH has the lowest tax burden in the U.S., other than Alaska.

Not to mention great hunting and fishing... You can shoot whitetail in NH, but when's the last time you took a moose in Texas? :grin:
I stand corrected, I had no idea they didn't have a sales tax. For now I'll stay in the swamp but I can understand the Frisco people wanting to move out.
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Here's a column from the FSP president about winter weather:

http://freestateproject.org/presidentscorner/060528
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I travel to New Hampshire fairly often, and I've found it to be a great place to vacation, but, like everywhere else, times are a changin' there, too. Laconia, a favorite destination because of its beautiful little airport (you can smell the pines when you open the door after landing), its proximity to ocean, lakes, and mountains (a few miles) and the well-mannered, if slightly formal, population. People come from all over for the summer watersports. I've never picked a bad apple in NH, nor had a bad meal. On the downside, jobs are hard to get, as the commercial economy is pretty much bust except for tourism, which peaks in the summer, but carries through snow season thanks to skiing. Like in West Virginia, when you ask someone what they do, often as not they'll say "I work for the government." And for those who want to go there to forget about San Francisco, note that the Hells Angels bought some acreage outside of Laconia a few years ago and built their "club" or whatever they call it there. They drive up and down the main street of Laconia all night long, when they're not somewhere else. A lot of other undesirables seem to be following them. Thankfully, the NH police are quite capable, and the prison system is no-nonsense. It is a true deterrent to crime.

For those wanting to move to NH and need jobs once they get there, please take a long, hard look and have something in hand before you go. I believe that it would be difficult for 20K new residents to assimilate into an economy as limited as that in NH, given the paucity of jobs and places to live.
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AV8R wrote:On the downside, jobs are hard to get, as the commercial economy is pretty much bust except for tourism, which peaks in the summer, but carries through snow season thanks to skiing.
That's odd. NH has the 11th lowest unemployment rate, at 3.4%, and the 6th highest per capita income, at 38,408 (2005 figures).

Like in West Virginia, when you ask someone what they do, often as not they'll say "I work for the government."
That's also an unusual perception to draw. The U.S. average for public employment (all facets of government) is 538.22 full time equivalent positions per 10,000 population. In NH, it's 528.16, much lower than Texas's 564.67.

I appreciate that you travel there frequently, whereas I'll be setting foot there for the first time in just over two weeks. But your report on the NH economy is at odds with all the statistics, and all the anectdotal reports from everyone I've ever talked to who lives there. Their experience supports the data: very low unemployment, very high wages, and very small government.

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...and besides, Massad Ayoob lives there. Can't be too bad! :grin:
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Yes, that certainly doesn't square with the conversations I've had with locals, who are mostly employed in the service industry. Thanks for making me aware of the statistics. Next time I'm there, I'll try to get a feeling for opportunities for newcomers who are not already established in the state.
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