Letter to businesses that post a 30.06 sign*updated*6/21/06

[therooster]

i need your help writing a letter.

my Aunt is the branch manager of the bank that i bank at. they have always had a 30.06 sign posted, but it was posted improperly; it has just now been fixed. this means i dont have a bank anymore .

i know she can be persuaded to take it down, but writing is by far my worst skill. do any of you have pre-prepared letters for this such thing? something that can get me started? if so, post'em or email'em - Jasondm56@aol.com


thanks guys
-Jason


**Updated**




Dear ,


I have been a customer of ___________________ for ___ years and have been pleased with your services.

Recently, a sign was posted at your branch that prohibits legal carrying of concealed weapons by people with a concealed handgun license (CHL).

As ____________ I know you put a great deal of thought into how to best care for the safety of your patrons and can imagine that the implementation of legalized concealed carry in Texas has left you wondering about your responsibilities under the law.

Businesses that are not specifically named as prohibited locations (under Texas Law¹) have no obligation to post signs banning legal concealed carry – regardless of advice given by local law enforcement, city officials, or Chamber of Commerce.

Nation wide, 46 states allow residents to carry concealed firearms. There are numerous cases where a legally carried firearm was used to stop a violent attack inside a business.

Most telling is a horrific instance at a Luby’s in Killeen, Texas, where a citizen obeyed the law by leaving her handgun in her car because of signs banning weapons, only to see her mother and father – as well as 21 other patrons – lose their lives at the hands of a deranged killer.

Signs don’t stop criminals, they only stop law-abiding citizens from protecting themselves and others around them; furthermore your branch does not have metal detectors. Any criminal can enter with a weapon and rob it, knowing that honest victims there are unable to defend themselves.

The State of Texas has stringent requirements for a CHL, including a criminal background check – through the FBI and Texas DPS - a minimum of 10 hours of training, proficiency testing, and periodic renewals. Over a quarter of a million Texans have received CHLs since 1996. They have legally defended themselves countless times, usually without a shot being fired.

Please, I beg you, consider the possibility of taking down your 30.06 sign. The evidence is irrefutable; it will only increase the safety of your employees and customers if you do.

If you are unsure, unclear, or have any questions, please contact me; I can provide you with whatever information you need.

Sincerely,
Jason Mullins
832.435.2952
Jasondm56@aol.com





¹ Places off-limits while carrying a concealed firearm under Texas Penal code: Title 10 Chpt. 46 § 46.03
· A place of business that derives 51% or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on premises consumption
· On premises of a correctional facility
· On the physical premises of a school, an educational institution, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or an educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private,
· On the premises where a high school, collegiate or professional sporting event of interscholastic event is taking place, unless the license holder is a participant in the event and a handgun is used in the event
· On the premises of a polling place on the day of an election or while early voting is in progress.
· Racetrack; secured area of an airport
· In any government court or offices utilized by the court, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the court.
· *On the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established place of religious worship.
· *On the premises of a Hospital licensed under the Health and Safety Code
· *On the premises of a nursing home licensed under the Health and Safety Code
· *Amusement parks. Amusement Parks means a permanent indoor or outdoor facility or park where amusement rides are available for use by the public that is located in a county with a population of more than one million, encompasses at least 75 acres in surface area, is enclosed with access only through controlled entries, is open for operation more than 120 days in each calendar year, and has security guards on the premises at all times. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.
· Public or private premises conspicuously posted with this sign do
· Items above marked * Do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.







Offices relating to CCW licensing in Texas
· Licensing Authority:
Texas Department of Public Safety
P O Box 4143
Austin, Texas 78765-4143
Phone: (512) 424-7293 or (800) 224-5744
Fax: Unk
Web Homepage
Email: chl@txdps.state.tx.us
· Attorney General:
Attorney General
P. O. Box 12548
Austin, Texas 78711-2548
Phone: (512) 463-2100
Fax: Unk
Web Homepage
Email: cac@oag.state.tx.us

[Paladin]

I would just state your situation. You've been using the bank for a certain number of years. Because the bank is now prohibiting you from legally carrying you have concerns for your safety. Not just because you can't carry, but because criminals will be attracted to the 'gun free zone'. So you will be closing your bank account.

See what they say.


FWIW...These days Bank of America is my primary bank, and I've never seen a 30.06 at a BoA.

[seamusTX]

Dear [name],

I have been a customer of [bank] for [X] years and have been pleased with your services.

Recently, a sign was posted at your branch at [address] that prohibits carrying of concealed weapons by people with a concealed handgun license (CHL).

The State of Texas has stringent requirements for a CHL, including a criminal background check, training, proficiency testing, and periodic renewals. Over a quarter of a million Texans have received CHLs since 1996. They have legally defended themselves countless times, usually without a shot being fired. CHL holders have a very low rate of violating the law or endangering innocent people, much lower than the population as a whole.

In short, CHL holders are law-abiding citizens and likely to remain that way.

People entering or leaving a bank are likely targets for robbers and need protection.

Meanwhile, signs do nothing to prevent criminals from carrying weapons and committing crimes. Your branch does not have metal detectors [if this is true]. Any criminal can enter with a weapon and rob it, knowing that honest victims there are unable to defend themselves.

If you do not allow legal carrying of concealed weapons by CHL holders, I will regretfully have to take my business to another bank that does not restrict my rights. [You might want to add that X branches of other banks in your town or neighborhood do not have 30.06 signs, if that is the case.]

If you wish to discuss this matter, please call me at [your phone number].

- Jim

[longtooth]

Good letter seamusTX. And I write a lot. Anyone else that wants one for future use ought to print it out. Use smirf's stats too.

[seamusTX]

Thanks.

I write for a living, but not usually stuff like that.

- Jim

[longtooth]

I bow to your experience my friend.

[sparx]

I can't confirm that Bank of America is outsourcing to overseas (though I would believe it... seems a lot of big corporations are doing that these days), but I will say that as of next Saturday, I'm changing to a new bank.

As a BofA customer that started with First Republic Bank of Texas, then NCNB, then Nations Bank and now BofA (through buy-outs), I would have thought my credentials as a very long-time customer in good standing would have at least meant something. However, in the last year alone on two instances (one just a couple weeks ago), I have had BofA flat out refuse to notorize a document for me because it wasn't a "bank-related" document.

The first time, I went across the street to Wells Fargo, where they happily notorized it for $6. I brought the receipt back and talked to the bank manager, stating that I wished to close my account for their lack of customer service that their competitor across the street had absolutely no problems giving. He explained that the person that refused me was "new" and requested that if he re-imburse me for the $6 that Wells Fargo charged me for the notary if I would reconsider. I did, and thought all was well.

A couple of weeks ago the scenario repeated itself, and I was told that if I went across the street that I could have it done there. "Yes, at Wells Fargo, they had to do it for me last time you guys refused to notorize a document for me. I think I've just found myself a new bank!" I said. "No! At the Mailboxes Etc." the 'Customer Service Agent' said.

"Forget Mailboxes Etc., I'm taking my banking over to Wells Fargo, where they're HAPPY to give good customer service and notorize my documents." I said. I told them that I had been a customer of BofA for many years, but it's really a sad state of customer service when I'm denied a simple notorization and am forced to go across the street to their competitor, Wells Fargo, for that service. (Actually, I'm thinking of switching to Compass, but plan to ask them about their notorization policies first and explain that poor policies is why I'm switching to them after considering their response).

Anyway, just my .02 on BofA.

[Diode]

I bow to your experience my friend.

I 2nd that... good stuff!

[jbirds1210]

I left BofA for similar reasons...very poor customer service. I have read many times that they post 30.06 at their banks...I would rather stuff my money in a pillow than give someone my money, so they can make money, while they are denying my rights! No way!

Thank God for credit unions. I can walk in and get whatever I want with my word and a nod of my head. I have known all of the prople there since I used to cash out my piggy bank as a child. I refuse to be thumb printed to cash a check. BTW, I have never paid a red cent for their service.....no monthly charges!
Jason

[barres]

I bank at Bank of America and have for years. My branch, at least, does not post 30.06 signs, and even notarized my CHL paperwork (not bank-related) for free. I think I even talked the customer service rep into signing up for the next local CHL class. Now, if my bank does start posting 30.06, I will be looking for a new bank.

[therooster]

a little off topic here guys....



ok, here is what i have so far. i used some stuff off of Ohio's website and some stuff from SeamusTX (thanks a bunch buddy). PLEASE tell me what you think.




Dear ,


I have been a customer of ___________________ for ___ years and have been pleased with your services.

Recently, a sign was posted at your branch that prohibits legal carrying of concealed weapons by people with a concealed handgun license (CHL).

As ____________ I know you put a great deal of though into how to best care for the safety of your patrons and can imagine that the recent implementation of legalized concealed carry in Texas has left you wondering about your responsibilities under the law.

Businesses that are not specifically named as prohibited locations (under Texas Law¹) have no obligation to post signs banning legal concealed carry – regardless of advice given by local law enforcement, city officials, or Chamber of Commerce.

46 states nation wide allow residence to carry concealed firearms. There are numerous cases where a legally carried firearm was used to stop a violent attack inside a business.

Most telling is a horrific instance at a Luby’s in Killeen, Texas, where a CHL holder obeyed the law by leaving her legally carried handgun in her car because of signs banning weapons, only to see her Mother and Father – as well as 21 other patrons – lose there lives at the hands of a deranged killer.

Signs don’t stop criminals, they only stop law-abiding citizens from protecting themselves and others around them; furthermore your branch does not have metal detectors. Any criminal can enter with a weapon and rob it, knowing that honest victims there are unable to defend themselves.

The State of Texas has stringent requirements for a CHL, including a criminal background check, a minimum of 10 hours of training, proficiency testing, and periodic renewals. Over a quarter of a million Texans have received CHLs since 1996. They have legally defended themselves countless times, usually without a shot being fired.

Please, I beg you, consider the possibility of taking down your 30.06 sign. The evidence is irrefutable; it will only increase the safety of your employees and customers if you do.

If you are unsure, unclear, or have any questions, please contact me; I can provide you with whatever information you need.

Sincerely,
Jason Mullins
832.435.2952
Jasondm56@aol.com

[seamusTX]

46 states nation wide

This is a minor nitpick, but you're not supposed to begin a sentence with a number. You can change it to "Nationwide, 46 states ..." or just "Forty-six states ..."

Most telling is a horrific instance at a Luby’s in Killeen, Texas, where a CHL holder obeyed the law by leaving her legally carried handgun in her car because of signs banning weapons,

I don't think that is correct. The Luby's massacre occurred before CHL existed in Texas. It was that incident that encouraged Suzanna Gratia Huff to run for the legislature and push for CHL.

I didn't live in Texas then, but I'm sure someone can confirm the facts.

Otherwise, I think you've said what you want to say clearly. I see you didn't copy the threat to stop doing business with them.

- Jim

[therooster]

your right. how about this.


Most telling is a horrific instance at a Luby’s in Killeen, Texas, where a citizen obeyed the law by leaving her handgun in her car because of signs banning weapons, only to see her Mother and Father – as well as 21 other patrons – lose their lives at the hands of a deranged killer.


i just took the "fluff" out of it.