No. 1 place you'd never go unarmed...this carwash

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No. 1 place you'd never go unarmed...this carwash

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We often seen news stories of carjackings and crimes committed at carwashes, gas stations and convenience stores even in parts of town that are not "risky". I have no plans to wash anything in South Dallas but this certainly reinforces "staying out of bad areas" when possible (looks like a full house doesn't it!?). You could not fling a cat (rhetorically speaking) without hitting a suspect. For those who say they don't always carry, bet this is one place you should - the car wash. :fire

10 arrested in drug roundup at South Dallas carwash are ID'd Link


12:00 AM CDT on Friday, September 11, 2009

By SCOTT GOLDSTEIN / The Dallas Morning News
sgoldstein@dallasnews.com

Men and women ranging in age from 17 to 60 were among those arrested Wednesday in a police drug roundup focused on a notorious South Dallas carwash, Dallas police said.

The arrests at Jim's Car Wash on Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard and two suspected drug stash houses nearby were part of a 2 ½-month undercover investigation, police said.

The men arrested on drug dealing charges are Eddie Ray Jackson, 43; Anthony Clyde Thomas, 51; Charles Edward Watkins, 48; Jeremy Daymond Acy, 19; Stevon Wiley, 48; Marvin Grant Walker, 19; Paul Lord, 17; AC Marcus Jones, 30.

The women arrested on drug dealing charges are Lvarrna Cooper, 60, and Wanda Joyce James, 51.

Eight other people were arrested on lesser charges, according to police records. Officers also recovered drugs and weapons.

Police officials praised the operation and vowed to keep up the pressure at the business and surrounding areas. The carwash has long been plagued by drugs and other criminal activity.

"The real success won't come until we abate the activity there, until we change the complexion of that neighborhood," Dallas police Assistant Chief Charlie Cato said.

Not everyone at the carwash was ultimately accused of wrongdoing.

Kimjada Rice, 38, of Cedar Hill said she was in the neighborhood with her fiancé to pick up her 12-year-old daughter from a nearby school. They had extra time and pulled into the carwash to vacuum their truck, she said.

Within minutes, Dallas police officers swarmed the lot.

"We saw all these police cars just speeding, coming towards us," Rice said. "They surrounded the entire carwash. They came out in the SWAT car. It was very scary."

Rice, who is four months pregnant, said she was handcuffed and detained for about 45 minutes without explanation. She said one officer told her, "I guess you'll pick another carwash to wash your car at next time."

Cato said officers had warrants for several people they believed could be at the carwash at the time. It is standard procedure in such an operation to detain everyone on the property until they are positively identified, he said.

"We can't just let people wander off," Cato said. "Whoever is there gets detained, and as soon as things get sorted out, they're on their way."
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Like comedian Chris Rock says : In any city in America, if you are on MLK Blvd, lock your doors!

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This car wash would be an exception of a place I would NEVER go to. Just seeing the crowd around it and that they weren't 'washing cars' would be enough to stay away.

However, a car wash is a spot where you are vulnerable. You are probably pre-occupied with the task at hand and distracted. You are getting out your wallet and putting money into the slot, so you would be at risk of someone grabbing your wallet and running. You probably leave your keys in the ignition and they could easily run out from another stall, hop in the car and drive off, etc.

I had an incident at a car wash years ago. I pulled up just as a car was pulling out of a stall. An man in his late 50's to early 60's was pulled off to the side of the lot and putting on rubber boots. I pulled into the stall and got out to start washing my car. The man came into the stall and told me I had jumped line. I advised he was NOT in line (there was no line) and that was putting on boots and wasn't even lined up to go into the stall I was in. He then stated he was going to proceed to kick my butt. I was in my early 20's at the time well capable of keeping him from doing what he threatened. I told him it was time he left before I did something we both regretted and turned the spray wand partially in his direction. I guess he decided his comment was ill-made since I didn't back down and walked out. What he also didn't realize was I was a local LEO at the time and could have arrested him for assault had he started something. ;-)
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It's "funny" Keith, I had kind of an 180 happen to me at a self service car wash in Addison several years ago.

I was first in line with several cars behind me and an older Corvette passed our line and pulled into an opening slot. I looked at the driver and, naturally, said "There is a line waiting." Exiting the car, in wife beater T, shorts and flip flops, unshaven was a chap who (to me) looked like he ran women or such for his occupation. His response as he made a roundabout trip by me to the wand was "What are you going to do about it?"

Well, I wasn't going to fight Mike Tyson to wash my car. Wish you had been there :txflag:
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I don't spend much time in "Sunny" South Dallas, especially while un-armed. Even at the State Fair! :txflag:
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The best part of South Dallas is exactly in the middle of it.......no matter which way you go, you are leaving.......
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Just like Keith B said above...I'd never go there. If there's a place I need a gun to feel safe at, there's absolutely no reason to risk my life by going there IMO.
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arnoldstrong wrote: If there's a place I need a gun to feel safe at, there's absolutely no reason to risk my life by going there IMO.
you may want to stay away from Houston . :shock:
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USA1 wrote:
arnoldstrong wrote: If there's a place I need a gun to feel safe at, there's absolutely no reason to risk my life by going there IMO.
you may want to stay away from Houston . :shock:
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Recently, a friend of mine pulled into a car wash and noticed another car full of Hispanics pulled up right behind him. Knowing there were plenty of empty stalls, he decided to just leave.

Then he relayed that our pastor was in a similar car wash when a man came up and said, "give me your keys". He said what? are you crazy? Then the man pulled out a hand gun and pointed it in the pastor's face. The pastor said, you don't want to shoot me, do you? Then the man pointed the gun off to the side and fired it. Then, pointed it at his face again. Our pastor gave him the keys and was prepared to give him his wallet or anything else he wanted.

I don't usually go into those kinds of car washes but found myself in one last weekend. No one else was around and I was armed.

Be careful out there!

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Lonewolf said it best-the problem isn't the carwash. I'd never go unarmed to South Dallas...
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My job takes me in to South Dallas.
I go to many pretty scary places.
I can't carry per the company policy.
So I figure the best policy is to be aware,
get the job done and get the heck out of there
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You have to do what you have to do........gotta keep it in perspective. Without the job, you would have a hard time buying ammo....... :patriot:
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You are supposed to wash vehicles? Strange world!
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Kevinf2349 wrote:You are supposed to wash vehicles? Strange world!
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