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Is this going to cause me a problem traveling in and out of Philadelphia with a carry pistol in my (checked of course) luggage?Airport Carry: No state laws found. Pittsburgh PA Parking Lot and Terminal Off Limits Allegheny Co.
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If Pittsburgh has the rule, the city of brotherly love can't be far behind...Dudley wrote:It's like 500 km between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh.
PA does have full statewide preemption , with one exception: open carry in a "city of the first class" (Philadelphia is the only such city) requires a handgun carry permit. In the rest of the state, unlicensed open carry is legal. Permits are issued by each county sheriff, but they're all the same: there is no special "Philadelphia license".KFP wrote:I believe that PA is a state that does not have statewide preemption, meaning that Philadelphia restricts CC to people with their "special" license. I could be off base on this, but was actually looking at the Philadelphia police website earlier today.
While PA does have preemption, some cities have chosen to ignore that and have passed their own laws. If you get stopped in one of those cities, you may find yourself arrested and charged. Sure, you would likely win in the long run, but it may cost you.chabouk wrote:PA does have full statewide preemption , with one exception: open carry in a "city of the first class" (Philadelphia is the only such city) requires a handgun carry permit. In the rest of the state, unlicensed open carry is legal. Permits are issued by each county sheriff, but they're all the same: there is no special "Philadelphia license".KFP wrote:I believe that PA is a state that does not have statewide preemption, meaning that Philadelphia restricts CC to people with their "special" license. I could be off base on this, but was actually looking at the Philadelphia police website earlier today.
I stand corrected, I read through the following (http://www.ppdonline.org/hq_gunpermit.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) and it sounded quite different from the mail in apps that you can do throughout the rest of the state.chabouk wrote:PA does have full statewide preemption , with one exception: open carry in a "city of the first class" (Philadelphia is the only such city) requires a handgun carry permit. In the rest of the state, unlicensed open carry is legal. Permits are issued by each county sheriff, but they're all the same: there is no special "Philadelphia license".KFP wrote:I believe that PA is a state that does not have statewide preemption, meaning that Philadelphia restricts CC to people with their "special" license. I could be off base on this, but was actually looking at the Philadelphia police website earlier today.
Each county in PA pretty much has discretion to handle their licensing however they see fit, provided that they follow the state form. Where the discretion comes into play is on things like the references (required by the state form). The state doesn't say whether or not those references have to be PA residents, but it doesn't say that they can be anybody either. So you'll get counties like Allegheny (Pittsburgh) and Philadelphia using their discretion to say the references must be county residents. They have discretion on whether or not to issue to non-residents and can specify how the application will be accepted. In any event you ultimately wind up with a Pennsylvania License to Carry Firearms (LTCF) that is valid statewide.KFP wrote:I stand corrected, I read through the following (http://www.ppdonline.org/hq_gunpermit.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) and it sounded quite different from the mail in apps that you can do throughout the rest of the state.
Carrying an unloaded, locked-in-a-case weapon in checked luggage is completely unrelated to concealed carry. It is allowed anywhere in the US. Only way I could think of it being illegal is if the WEAPON itself were illegal in the jurisdiction you were flying to. Even in that case, the airline folks check it when you check in and you pick it up on the conveyor when you get there like any other luggage, as I recall. Never traveled with a pistol like this, but lots of times with rifle and it's no big deal. Now if you walk out the door of the airport and break open the case on the sidewalk and pull the gun out, load it, and holster it (concealed), I'd bet you'll meet some new friends and get to try on handcuffs.CDH wrote:Anyone able to shed some light on this:
Is this going to cause me a problem traveling in and out of Philadelphia with a carry pistol in my (checked of course) luggage?
Anyone been through there recently to give me the lay of the land? I'll be flying Continental...
Thanks in advance!
But otherwise, you'll be fine.
Am I missing something here?SlowDave wrote:Funniest thing is, when you check in, you are generally required to unlock & open the case and show the counter agent that it is unloaded. What a security risk! So if anyone ever wanted to shoot up an airport terminal (ticket counter area), they can just do this, and when they pull it out to show the agent it's unloaded, surprise! This has always hit me as extremely stupid. Easiest way to get a loaded (any kind of weapon you want) into the airport ticketing area. Sheesh.
Nothing.Kevinf2349 wrote:What am I missing?
