Marine veteran applying

[Adrenlin]

Hello all I'm new to this forum so just a quick introduction!

My name is jason and I'm a recently seperated Marine and i moved to Texas upon EAS from The Corps. My question is I know I qualify to wave my CHL application fee but will providing proof of my Expert pistol qualification also allow me to skip the CHL course?
Thanks for any replies

[Keith B]

Hello all I'm new to this forum so just a quick introduction!

My name is jason and I'm a recently seperated Marine and i moved to Texas upon EAS from The Corps. My question is I know I qualify to wave my CHL application fee but will providing proof of my Expert pistol qualification also allow me to skip the CHL course?
Thanks for any replies

Welcome to the forum Jason.

No, you can't skip the CHL class portion even if you have previous training. The course focuses upon laws and rules for Texas CHL's, not just shooting. It also will get your paperwork ready to go to the state. However, the shooting portion should be a piece of cake for you if you qualified Expert in pistol.

Enjoy the forum. There is a lot of really good info here.

[seamusTX]

Welcome to the forum, and thank you for your service.

You may be able skip the range test, if you meet the following standard:

Government Code Sec. 411.1881. EXEMPTION FROM INSTRUCTION FOR CERTAIN PERSONS. (a) Notwithstanding any other provision of this subchapter, a person may not be required to complete the range instruction portion of a handgun proficiency course to obtain or renew a concealed handgun license issued under this subchapter if the person:
(1) is currently serving in or is honorably discharged from:
(A) the army, navy, air force, coast guard, or marine corps of the United States or an auxiliary service or reserve unit of one of those branches of the armed forces; or
(B) the state military forces, as defined by Section 431.001; and
(2) has, within the five years preceding the date of the person's application for an original or renewed license, as applicable, completed a course of training in handgun proficiency or familiarization as part of the person's service with the armed forces or state military forces.
(b) The director by rule shall adopt a procedure by which a license holder who is exempt under Subsection (a) from the range instruction portion of the handgun proficiency requirement may submit a form demonstrating the license holder's qualification for an exemption under that subsection. The form must provide sufficient information to allow the department to verify whether the license holder qualifies for the exemption.

I don't know the mechanics of how you do this.

But what the heck? If you can put 35 shots on a pie plate at 7 yards, you can pass the test. You can put a 1/2-inch ragged hole in the target and make everybody else feel bad.

- Jim

[dicion]

But what the heck? If you can put 35 shots on a pie plate at 7 yards, you can pass the test. You can put a 1/2-inch ragged hole in the target and make everybody else feel bad.

- Jim

Thats what I did, except my hole was about 3.5". Not quite as impressive, but still :)

[surprise_i'm_armed]

dicion:

If you put 7 or 8 shots from your 1911 into a 3.5" center of mass on the bad guy,
I believe that would qualify as "stopping the threat". :-)

SIA

[boomerang]

Government Code Sec. 411.1881. EXEMPTION FROM INSTRUCTION FOR CERTAIN PERSONS.

I always figured that was there for the fragile egos of guys who can't handle a soccer mom shooting a higher score than them.

[dicion]

dicion:

If you put 7 or 8 shots from your 1911 into a 3.5" center of mass on the bad guy,
I believe that would qualify as "stopping the threat". :-)

SIA

Somehow I don't think I'll be quite that good with a gallon of Adrenaline dumped into my system if 'go time' ever happens...

... Hmm.. I wonder if Training at the range after getting an Epinephrine shot would simulate that well...
If so, maybe we should look into it. See exactly how we DO fare with the gallon of Adrenaline pumping...

Anyone got any spare EpiPens?

Scenario goes like this: You're laying down in a bed, eyes closed. You get the shot after a certain unknown wait. You then have to get up, fetch your handgun from the nightstand, and place shots on target.
Pretty good simulation of you being awakened by breaking glass, as the adrenaline dump would probably be the same.

I know some people would laude the 'shooting with drugs in your system' idea of this... but this 'drug' will be in your system if this ever actually happens to you, like it or not.

Sorry, I'm ranting.. I do that sometimes. Not serious about the Epi shot, but people need to realize that shooting under duress is _completely_ different than calm, relaxed shots at a range.

[Purplehood]

Why pass up on an opportunity to shoot?

[hheremtp]

dicion:

If you put 7 or 8 shots from your 1911 into a 3.5" center of mass on the bad guy,
I believe that would qualify as "stopping the threat". :-)

SIA

Somehow I don't think I'll be quite that good with a gallon of Adrenaline dumped into my system if 'go time' ever happens...

... Hmm.. I wonder if Training at the range after getting an Epinephrine shot would simulate that well...
If so, maybe we should look into it. See exactly how we DO fare with the gallon of Adrenaline pumping...

Anyone got any spare EpiPens?

Scenario goes like this: You're laying down in a bed, eyes closed. You get the shot after a certain unknown wait. You then have to get up, fetch your handgun from the nightstand, and place shots on target.
Pretty good simulation of you being awakened by breaking glass, as the adrenaline dump would probably be the same.

I know some people would laude the 'shooting with drugs in your system' idea of this... but this 'drug' will be in your system if this ever actually happens to you, like it or not.

Sorry, I'm ranting.. I do that sometimes. Not serious about the Epi shot, but people need to realize that shooting under duress is _completely_ different than calm, relaxed shots at a range.

Dicion, I Know you were joking, but you actually hit the nail right on the head, it would give you the adrenaline dump effect. however I would not recommend someone trying it!

[dicion]

Dicion, I Know you were joking, but you actually hit the nail right on the head, it would give you the adrenaline dump effect. however I would not recommend someone trying it!

It was suggested to me that IDPA also is a good way to practice fire under duress and adrenaline rush. I fully intend on doing some IDPA Matches, mostly recreational, once I get the time.