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If guns kill people...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:55 am
by randomoutburst
I found a new favorite response to those who claim that guns cause violence, guns kill people, etc....
If guns kill people, then bread kills, too! (Criminals use bread, but you know what else? Juvenile delinquents come from households that stock bread, too)
http://monster-island.org/tinashumor/hu ... kills.html
Found it funny. But then, things dripping with sarcasm typically are.
Re: If guns kill people...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:43 am
by A-R
Well done. I took a course in statistics in college years ago and the only thing I still remember and use daily is this: It is easier, and far more persuasive, to lie with numbers than with words.
Re: If guns kill people...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:16 am
by Purplehood
austinrealtor wrote:Well done. I took a course in statistics in college years ago and the only thing I still remember and use daily is this: It is easier, and far more persuasive, to lie with numbers than with words.
Darn, I might still be married if I had paid more attention in stats class.
Re: If guns kill people...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:35 am
by USA1
Purplehood wrote:austinrealtor wrote:Well done. I took a course in statistics in college years ago and the only thing I still remember and use daily is this: It is easier, and far more persuasive, to lie with numbers than with words.
Darn, I might still be married if I had paid more attention in stats class.
(Factoid)....100% of all divorces are caused by marriage.
Re: If guns kill people...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:42 am
by RPB
Yeah, Pencils cause mis-spelled words.
Re: If guns kill people...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:51 am
by Purplehood
RPB wrote:Yeah, Pencils cause mis-spelled words.
It took me forever to figure this one out. Gawds I R smart.
Re: If guns kill people...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:25 am
by RPB
Purplehood wrote:RPB wrote:Yeah, Pencils cause mis-spelled words.
It took me forever to figure this one out. Gawds I R smart.
LOL yeah, I like the logic ...it isn't the "thing in the hand" which "causes" but rather the operator of that device.
Either "device in the hand" can be used for good or evil, depending on the Operator.
(Australia has more deaths by sizzors than guns, and has more violent crimes than we do.)
Re: If guns kill people...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:21 am
by USA1
RPB wrote:
Australia has more deaths by sizzors than guns
Ouch !
I think I'd prefer to take a bullet.

Re: If guns kill people...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:13 pm
by bdickens
98.6% of statistics are just made up.
Re: If guns kill people...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:22 pm
by USA1
bdickens wrote:98.6% of statistics are just made up.
Especially when talking about saving or creating jobs ....but that's another story.

Re: If guns kill people...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:25 pm
by Jeremae
USA1 wrote:RPB wrote:
Australia has more deaths by sizzors than guns
Ouch !
I think I'd prefer to take a bullet.

While working in Norway, I got tired of all the "America is horrible because everyone has guns and people are getting shot all the time" crap I heard over and over.

So I did some research and found that your odds of being physically injured (including death) from the actions of another were not apprieciably different here versus Norway. The major difference was in Norway the weapon of choice was an AX. I would much rather be shot than chopped.

Re: If guns kill people...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:54 pm
by RPB
bdickens wrote:98.6% of statistics are just made up.
But only 40% of the time are those 98% of statistics made up..... and, assuming you use a LARGE standard deviation for a margin of error and aquire the sample group very selectively to represent a desired target population rather than a general population, perhaps even just 30% of the time 98% of statistics are made up..
Re: If guns kill people...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:03 pm
by Keith B
RPB wrote:bdickens wrote:98.6% of statistics are just made up.
But only 40% of the time are those 98% of statistics made up..... and, assuming you use a LARGE standard deviation for a margin of error and aquire the sample group very selectively to represent a desired target population rather than a general population, perhaps even just 30% of the time 98% of statistics are made up..
I ain't the smartest feller in the world, but I think both of you just made this up.

Re: If guns kill people...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:29 pm
by LongHairedRedneck
Way more people get killed in automobile accidents than are killed by gunshot wounds. Point here is that you don't see any big political lobbyist fighting to ban automobiles.
Also knives are more deadly than guns, you run a higher percentage of recieving a fatal stab wound than a fatal gunshot wound(no bull) If I remeber correctly over 50% of stabbings are fatal and only around 30% of shootings are fatal. And
every household in America has knives and usually quite a few of them. So why are the left wingers not banning knives because they are horrible killing weapons?
This is just two examples of how politically rigged this "guns kill people" agenda is.
Re: If guns kill people...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:32 pm
by quidni
LongHairedRedneck wrote:And
every household in America has knives and usually quite a few of them. So why are the left wingers not banning knives because they are horrible killing weapons?
Seen the news from England lately?
Please don't give our politicians any more ideas!
