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Well, not totally off topic... since I couldn't carry there, so it was a "carrying" issue. :grin:

I was called for jury duty at the Bowie County courthouse (New Boston). About a hundred+ of us, to be divided into two pools. One case was a felony charge to be heard in district court next week. The other was a misdemeanor assault charge to be tried and concluded today in county court-at-law.

I wound up on the panel for the misdemeanor assault, although I wasn't selected. I was number sixteen out of twenty, and the six member jury was picked out of the first nine. I'd have stuck around as a spectator, but it really didn't look like an interesting case, because it would all boil down to whose testimony was more believable.

I was surprised at how the DA basically tried the case during voir dire, laying out all the facts of the case and pointing out the expected defense claim of self defense. While addressing self defense, he said that when someone initiates the confrontation (as the purported victim did in this case), then gets his butt whipped, it's perfectly okay for the jury to find that --and I quote-- "The sum(thing) had it comin'!" :shock:

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The other thing that surprised me was the jury pool. I knew that coats and ties weren't required, as they are in federal court. But I still put on slacks and a tie, just to show respect for the process. I was somewhat overdressed, because apparently shorts, t-shirts, and flip-flops are perfectly acceptable juror attire in Texas. :???:

CHL related stuff: there are still 30.06 signs on the doors. Immaterial, since it's a courthouse, and the meeting place of the quorum court. A single deputy manned the metal detector, but when he took a break, the sheriff himself took a turn at it.

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KBCraig wrote:Well, not totally off topic... since I couldn't carry there, so it was a "carrying" issue. :grin:

I was called for jury duty at the Bowie County courthouse (New Boston). About a hundred+ of us, to be divided into two pools. One case was a felony charge to be heard in district court next week. The other was a misdemeanor assault charge to be tried and concluded today in county court-at-law.

I wound up on the panel for the misdemeanor assault, although I wasn't selected. I was number sixteen out of twenty, and the six member jury was picked out of the first nine. I'd have stuck around as a spectator, but it really didn't look like an interesting case, because it would all boil down to whose testimony was more believable.

I was surprised at how the DA basically tried the case during voir dire, laying out all the facts of the case and pointing out the expected defense claim of self defense. While addressing self defense, he said that when someone initiates the confrontation (as the purported victim did in this case), then gets his butt whipped, it's perfectly okay for the jury to find that --and I quote-- "The sum(thing) had it comin'!" :shock:

:grin:

The other thing that surprised me was the jury pool. I knew that coats and ties weren't required, as they are in federal court. But I still put on slacks and a tie, just to show respect for the process. I was somewhat overdressed, because apparently shorts, t-shirts, and flip-flops are perfectly acceptable juror attire in Texas. :???:

CHL related stuff: there are still 30.06 signs on the doors. Immaterial, since it's a courthouse, and the meeting place of the quorum court. A single deputy manned the metal detector, but when he took a break, the sheriff himself took a turn at it.

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The first time I was called for jury duty in Texas, I wore a suit. People kept mistaking me for a lawyer. I was the only male juror candidate wearing a suit.

I was also surprised at the casual dress. The judge who initially addressed the jury pool sent a couple of people home because of what they were wearing. The one I remember was a guy wearing a T-shirt that said, "I'm only here for the beer."

I got on a panel for a lawsuit. The plaintiff was wearing a Hawaiian shirt and the defendant was wearing overalls.

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seamusTX wrote: The judge who initially addressed the jury pool sent a couple of people home because of what they were wearing.
I have witnessed the same thing in Galveston....the judge will not allow shorts or tank top style shirts during any part of the process. I agree that it is a good idea to dress nicely and show some self respect.

I was chosen for a jury a couple of months ago. I really enjoyed the process. I hope to get chosen again someday.
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I never get picked for jury duty. I never even get a summons. I'm one of those freaks that would actually like it.
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It's completely random. I was called twice in about seven years. Mrs. Casey was called after ten years and then she didn't get on a panel.

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Venus Pax wrote:I never get picked for jury duty. I never even get a summons. I'm one of those freaks that would actually like it.
Same here. I'd love to have JD. I never get a summons.

But then again, I'm also only 23, so I don't have a lot of time to gripe about.....
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I was called once in Lubbock in the 70's when I lived there... knew the DPS officer and I was dismissed from the DWI trial.

Then I didn't get a call until the early 90's and got called in Ft. Worth. I served on a two week civil case... found for the defendant.

Then was called a couple of months later... got off because of prior service.

A couple of years later was called again, this time it was another civil case. A man tried to beat a Sante Fe train and we found American Airlines lible... very interesting case.

Then was called just a couple of years ago, this time I was #4 in line, and the case settled before we were seated for voir dire.

This is very intersting would do it again if called again.

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I was on a jury once, about 10 years ago, felony case whereby the defendent was found guilty (he was) and received a 99 year sentance, the max allowed by law. He elected to have the judge assess the penalty after we reached our verdict, but I'm certain he would have gotten the same from us.

Lasted a week, in Travis County, very, very interesting and educational.
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Venus Pax wrote:I never get picked for jury duty. I never even get a summons. I'm one of those freaks that would actually like it.
Ditto.

Well, I got called once so far, when I lived in Arizona. Like others, I dressed like I'd have dressed for a sales meeting. WAY overdressed there, too. I was the youngest juror on the pool by at least 25 years.
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Venus Pax wrote:I never get picked for jury duty. I never even get a summons. I'm one of those freaks that would actually like it.
I am glad to here so many others have had the same experience. At 56 I have never been called.
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I got called a bunch of years ago, when I lived in upstate NY. Until then I had been "exempt" as a volunteer fireman. I really looked forward to it because it drove my boss bananas, I would have loved to be sequestered for a while just to nettle the twerp.

I was the 15th person left in the room and they had to pick 14, and I didn't make it. It might have been the three piece business suit, complete with power tie, or the briefcase that I kept taking work out of and doing (actually I was reading Guns and Ammo but . . .)

The case was actually kind of fun. This (white) kid with rasta dreads, floppy knit hat, and tie died shirt came in and glared at everyone during voir dire. I think he was trying to intimidate the jury pool.

Seems he was caught dealing drugs, but he really was just the mule. He got on a bus in NY City ticketed for Albany, but he took the local, not the express, 150 miles and 15 stops. After the third or fouth stop the driver got a little suspicious - the kid got off the bus at every stop, carrying his duffle, and there always seemed to be a buddy there to greet him. They would walk around the corner of a building chatting like old buds, and then the kid would be back on the bus.

The driver phoned in his guess to the state police, who started observing the activities of the kid, including picking up his buds after the bud left. When they got to Albany, the SPs picked up the kid. I think he plea bargained for a reduced sentence if he turned in the guy he was muling for.

I got the details from a LEO friend some time after I was sent packing from the jury pool, my curiosity was up and I just had to find out.


The only other time I have been called was after my wife and I had moved from NY state to IL, and the summons got forwarded to me after it got sent to three old addresses of mine. I called the clerk of the court and told her that I now resided 900 miles away and had for several years, but if they would pay me mileage and lodging, along with a per diem for meals I would be glad to report as ordered. She actually had the audacity to ORDER me to put my "excuse" in the form of a letter and send it to her. When I asked her to pay the postage she got all huffy and hung up on me.

My wife got called twice in IL, in the 6 years we were there, and has been called twice in the 7 years we have been in TX.
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Grrr! :mad:

I just walked in and found a Federal Jury summons in the mail.
Reading this thread makes me even more mad, as I am some kinda target for the Court System....I get a summons every other year!

Y'all pony up. I've taken my swim in the Jury Pool.

Oh, and I have to have it filled out by tomorrow, else I go to jail. Doh.

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I served three times in the 80's. I am proud to say that I was jury foreman on a case where a 38 year old raped his 3 year old niece. Being totally stupid he requested to have the jury set his sentence. I think he gets out with good behavior when he is 71. We offered to hang him but the judge would not let us.
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The Marshal wrote:Oh, and I have to have it filled out by tomorrow, else I go to jail. Doh.

I am not trying to get off topic, but, are the summons sent return receipt or certified mail? I am not suggesting nor would I ever destroy a government document, but what keeps people that really want to avoid jury duty from doing this?

I once worked with a guy that threw a jury summons in the trash like it was a sales ad. He never heard anything else about it and stated that he would love to know how anyone could prove that he got it in the first place! Just food for thougth.
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