Shootout in the Stockyards (Ft Worth)
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Shootout in the Stockyards (Ft Worth)
Fort Worth (WBAP) - Fort Worth police on were searching for one of two men who tried to run over an officer investigating reports of drug use in an alley in the Stockyards district. One of the suspects was being treated for a gunshot wound inflicted by the officer or by an armed civilian who came to his aid.
At around 3 a.m. Thursday, a patrol officer investigating reports that two men were smoking drugs in a Mercedes Benz parked in an alley off North Main Street and West Exchange Avenue was nearly run over as the car sped away. He was not injured, but fired several shots at the car.
As the suspects drove out onto West Exchange, a bystander who thought the officer had been killed drew his own gun and fired at the passing Mercedes.
A few minutes later, a car matching the description of the Mercedes Benz pulled into a convenience store parking lot at I-35 and Yucca. The passenger, suffering a gunshot wound to the upper arm, got out of the car before the driver sped away. The injured man was taken to John Peter Smith Hospital, where he told investigators that the other man may have been hit in the leg.
Because the vehicle was being used as a weapon against a peace officer, the suspects may face charges of Criminal Attempted Capital Murder, said FW Police Sgt. Chad Mahaffey.
At around 3 a.m. Thursday, a patrol officer investigating reports that two men were smoking drugs in a Mercedes Benz parked in an alley off North Main Street and West Exchange Avenue was nearly run over as the car sped away. He was not injured, but fired several shots at the car.
As the suspects drove out onto West Exchange, a bystander who thought the officer had been killed drew his own gun and fired at the passing Mercedes.
A few minutes later, a car matching the description of the Mercedes Benz pulled into a convenience store parking lot at I-35 and Yucca. The passenger, suffering a gunshot wound to the upper arm, got out of the car before the driver sped away. The injured man was taken to John Peter Smith Hospital, where he told investigators that the other man may have been hit in the leg.
Because the vehicle was being used as a weapon against a peace officer, the suspects may face charges of Criminal Attempted Capital Murder, said FW Police Sgt. Chad Mahaffey.
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It will be interesting to see who actually hit the guy, the LEO or the citizen.
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I've never been one to "do" controlled substances (smoke/inject/snort, etc. drugs) but I didn't think that smoking dope was a shootable offense.
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It is when you use your vehicle to try and run some one over! Especially a LEO.Oldgringo wrote:Here we go again, another Batman to the rescue.
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I've never been one to "do" controlled substances (smoke/inject/snort, etc. drugs) but I didn't think that smoking dope was a shootable offense.
Guns are like parachutes, if your ever in a situation that you need one and you dont have one, you'll probably never need one again.
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EXACTLY! doesn't matter whether they were smoking anything. If they tried to run over a police officer (illegal use of force with their vehicle as the deadly weapon) then return fire from the officer and the (I assume) CHL was competely justified, IMHO.ddstuder wrote:It is when you use your vehicle to try and run some one over! Especially a LEO.Oldgringo wrote:Here we go again, another Batman to the rescue.
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I've never been one to "do" controlled substances (smoke/inject/snort, etc. drugs) but I didn't think that smoking dope was a shootable offense.
Of course, as usual, we don't know all the facts yet. But this sure seems like what happened.
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i like the reason of the store owner for open firing.."i thought he killed the police officer, and of course i feared for the officer's life and my life."
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Oldgringo wrote:Here we go again, another Batman to the rescue.
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I've never been one to "do" controlled substances (smoke/inject/snort, etc. drugs) but I didn't think that smoking dope was a shootable offense.
Time will tell, but I doubt seriously that they were just smoking a joint! I am willing to bet they were smoking meth, ice, speed or what ever you want to call it. I can't see some one using marijuana acting in this manner, but it is totally believable if they were hopped up on speed.
Guns are like parachutes, if your ever in a situation that you need one and you dont have one, you'll probably never need one again.
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Here's a different account of the same incident from the Ft.Worth Star Telegram:
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I'm glad the citizen came to the aid of the officer. What was done was completely justified, IMO.
The officer, on foot in an alley, with a car speeding toward him was very lucky he didn't get hit. He had no place to run or hide.
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I'm glad the citizen came to the aid of the officer. What was done was completely justified, IMO.
The officer, on foot in an alley, with a car speeding toward him was very lucky he didn't get hit. He had no place to run or hide.
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Hey boys,
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for public executions of the guilty...regardless of race, creed, color, gender or age. I also favor corporal punishment in the schools and a man and woman marriage, etc., etc.
The above having been said, what right thinking patrolman would approach an occupied parked car in an alley at 0300 hrs. from a head-on position? Next question, what was the armed citizen, CHL or not, doing in the alley at that time of morning just as the patrolman was in need? Third question, where were the LEO's partners when all of this went down?
Yepper,
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for public executions of the guilty...regardless of race, creed, color, gender or age. I also favor corporal punishment in the schools and a man and woman marriage, etc., etc.
The above having been said, what right thinking patrolman would approach an occupied parked car in an alley at 0300 hrs. from a head-on position? Next question, what was the armed citizen, CHL or not, doing in the alley at that time of morning just as the patrolman was in need? Third question, where were the LEO's partners when all of this went down?
Yepper,
"we don't know all the facts yet".
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Yep. I would definitely be surprised if it was just pot. Possesion of meth or rock cocaine would be a felony. Much more reason to risk running an armed police officer down. Even more so if they had prior arrests or warrants. Pot would not be worth the risk unless it was a large quanity. 3am? Thats a little late for potheads. LOL. For meth users the night is just begining.ddstuder wrote:Oldgringo wrote:Here we go again, another Batman to the rescue.
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I've never been one to "do" controlled substances (smoke/inject/snort, etc. drugs) but I didn't think that smoking dope was a shootable offense.
Time will tell, but I doubt seriously that they were just smoking a joint! I am willing to bet they were smoking meth, ice, speed or what ever you want to call it. I can't see some one using marijuana acting in this manner, but it is totally believable if they were hopped up on speed.
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Just heard on the radio (WBAP) that the police were commending the CHL for "coming to the aid of an officer."
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Backup would be a good idea. But there was nothing I saw that said the CHL was in the alley.Oldgringo wrote:Hey boys,
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The above having been said, what right thinking patrolman would approach an occupied parked car in an alley at 0300 hrs. from a head-on position? Next question, what was the armed citizen, CHL or not, doing in the alley at that time of morning just as the patrolman was in need? Third question, where were the LEO's partners when all of this went down?
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I'm playing the devil's advocate here and must ask, "If not in the alley with the LEO, where was the CHL that he knew what had went on and how did he know upon whom to fire. The speeding car could have been undercover agents or just about anybody doing what consenting adults do in darkened alleys at 3:00 AM. How did the CHL know"?Dragonfighter wrote:Backup would be a good idea. But there was nothing I saw that said the CHL was in the alley.Oldgringo wrote:Hey boys,
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The above having been said, what right thinking patrolman would approach an occupied parked car in an alley at 0300 hrs. from a head-on position? Next question, what was the armed citizen, CHL or not, doing in the alley at that time of morning just as the patrolman was in need? Third question, where were the LEO's partners when all of this went down?
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BTW, I want this to come out in favor of the good guys; however, there are just too many coincidences here and inquiring minds want to know.
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If he worked in the general area he would still be there at 3 because the bars close at 2, an hour is more than reasonable to continue to be on the job after it shuts down, especially at a bar. He could have been taking out the trash (which I assume where most places keep their trash is an alley) he could have heard a commotion, saw the lights, been walking to his car, from his car. There are a large number of legitimate reasons for a person to be out there at 3.Oldgringo wrote:I'm playing the devil's advocate here and must ask, "If not in the alley with the LEO, where was the CHL that he knew what had went on and how did he know upon whom to fire. The speeding car could have been undercover agents or just about anybody doing what consenting adults do in darkened alleys at 3:00 AM. How did the CHL know"?Dragonfighter wrote:Backup would be a good idea. But there was nothing I saw that said the CHL was in the alley.Oldgringo wrote:Hey boys,
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The above having been said, what right thinking patrolman would approach an occupied parked car in an alley at 0300 hrs. from a head-on position? Next question, what was the armed citizen, CHL or not, doing in the alley at that time of morning just as the patrolman was in need? Third question, where were the LEO's partners when all of this went down?
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BTW, I want this to come out in favor of the good guys; however, there are just too many coincidences here and inquiring minds want to know.
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Pretty much the same list as at 3PM, with maybe the exception of picking the kids up at school.Pinkycatcher wrote:There are a large number of legitimate reasons for a person to be out there at 3.
Some folks here have apparently decided that anyone out at 3AM must be evil. They clearly think that all the people who work night shift should be required to stay home on their days off, too.