Anybody notice.....

DaveT · Post by **DaveT** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:27 am

While I am all for hearing protection,
anybody notice anything wrong with this picture ???

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nuparadigm · Post by **nuparadigm** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:30 am

The letters on his cap say it all.

Liberty · Post by **Liberty** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:49 am

and the finger on the trigger is litteraly the coupe d'gras

longtooth · Post by **longtooth** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:27 pm

I hate to, but, yes I can believe it. Wonder if that one was staged.

spud · Post by **spud** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:46 pm

longtooth wrote:I hate to, but, yes I can believe it. Wonder if that one was staged.

Like the agent that shot himself infront of a class?

longtooth · Post by **longtooth** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:55 pm

I am really afraid that both may be staged to the same extent.

I assure you I am not qualified to handle a hand gun with his expertice.
Careful look at the circled incert looks like the hammer may be in single action mode also.

Appears to be a blur against the background of the post. Finger on the trigger. That guy don't have any thing up there to blow out.

KBCraig · Post by **KBCraig** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:34 pm

I vote for staged.

After all, the photographer is not in a great position for safety, either.

longtooth · Post by **longtooth** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:09 pm

Some things should never be staged just because they are irresponsible. If it is staged the actors border on irresponsible to the same degree as the actors if it is not staged.

KBCraig · Post by **KBCraig** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:07 am

longtooth wrote:Some things should never be staged just because they are irresponsible. If it is staged the actors border on irresponsible to the same degree as the actors if it is not staged.

I think you're being a bit over-cautious.

Every movie, every stage production, every firearms and/or self-defense training video that shows both safe and unsafe gun usage, takes certain precautions.

Do you know that the "ATF" guy is holding an actual firearm? If it is an actual firearm, do you know what safety precautions have been taken? Do you consider them less adequate than the safety precautions taken on movie sets every day of the year?

C'mon, lighten up. It's obviously a staged photo, designed to poke fun at the ATF and their poor knowledge of firearms. Most of us here could recreate the same photo in perfect safety.

The mantras of gun safety are good things. But there are times that we know a gun truly is unloaded, at which point it's nothing more than a short club. At such time, feel free to point it at your head for a silly photo, if you wish.

Kevin

longtooth · Post by **longtooth** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:09 am

Done.

See you in print.

DaveT · Post by **DaveT** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:23 am

My apologies to all.

Sure didn't mean to start a ruckus when I posted the pic.

Staged or not, it just appeared to be a good conversation starter because there is so much obviously wrong.

Liberty · Post by **Liberty** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:08 am

DaveT wrote:My apologies to all.

Sure didn't mean to start a ruckus when I posted the pic.

Staged or not, it just appeared to be a good conversation starter because there is so much obviously wrong.

I sure am glad you did post. This thread not only provided a a good laugh. It also provided a thought exercise. Longtooths reaction about staging such a shot is understandable.
The rules aren't just something that we learn, but really take to heart. They become instictive and compliance automatic. We not only live and follow these rules, but expect others around us to follow them strictly. Photographs such as the one posted are going to cause us pause. Even knowing they are posed we might wonder how much horseplay is involved.

KBCraig reminds us that such staging occurs safely all the time. I at one time was active in war re-enactments. If these things are done under very strict guidelines, and safety is foremost in everything staging (or acting can be very safe. I believe Longtooth understands this.

At any rate posting this picture provided enterainment, and some discussion about safety. Thats a good thing.

Thank you.

AG-EE · Post by **AG-EE** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:59 pm

I vote for staged also. I have a difficult time imaging that even the least gun-educated ATF employee would do that.

stevie_d_64 · Post by **stevie_d_64** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:31 pm

DaveT wrote:Sure didn't mean to start a ruckus when I posted the pic.

Yeah, sure you did!

1TallTXn · Post by **1TallTXn** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:03 pm

well, if its not staged, he won't ever have trouble with loud noises again!